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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    But it's official Hasbro tender. It's the closest thing to canon you're going to get without it being in the actual show.

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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    Quote Originally Posted by kd7sov View Post
    You're assuming that Cloudsdale is the only cloud-based town. True? Maybe. It's the only one we've seen, but then Canterlot's the only town we've seen that's built on a mountain. Doesn't mean it's the only mountain town that exists.
    No, not the only cloud town in Equestria. Just the only cloud town within a logical area given the information presented to fit Fluttershy's home.

    Do you think Fluttershy would be able to fly all the way to Cloudsdale as a filly and still be barely able to fly through a ring?
    Also, In her flash back, see calls it her "cloud home". Given, she did not explicitly state that she was BORN in Cloudsdale, she still refers to it as her place of origin.

    (And don't argue that her parents could have just flown her there as a tiny filly. Even though it's possible, that's basically the same thing as when a small town resident is born in a hospital in a major city. You don't call the city they where born in their hometown, rather, the one they were raised in)

    In the Return of Harmony, it is explicetly stated that RD originates from Cloudsdale. "...The foundations of HOME will crumble without you." RD automaticaly thought of Cloudsdale, even though Ponyville was her present residence.

    If, and until the crew decides to elaborate more on their backstories, this is the given cannon.

    Also, the map is regaurded as noncannon, so I have no reason to use it in an argument.
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    But it's official Hasbro tender. It's the closest thing to canon you're going to get without it being in the actual show.
    Sorry, but the story team has said they have no official map. It's about as much cannon as the S2 group shot.

    I don't want to sound like a huge jerk if that's how I'm coming across.

    Then again, it's not like there are many major pegasi to begin with to make comparisons...
    Good point.

    I would like to say that it is highly probable that Spitfire came from Cloudsdale though.


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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiilek Rekaur View Post
    Also, In her flash back, see calls it her "cloud home". Given, she did not explicitly state that she was BORN in Cloudsdale, she still refers to it as her place of origin.
    Ambiguous. She doesn't call Cloudsdale her cloud home, she just says that she had a cloud home. Could be the same sort of thing as present day RD has, with home=house.
    Sorry, but the story team has said they have no official map. It's about as much cannon as the S2 group shot.
    Didn't they say that before the map was released, though? Part of the point was that such things are subject to change.
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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    Quote Originally Posted by Violet CLM View Post
    Ambiguous. She doesn't call Cloudsdale her cloud home, she just says that she has a cloud home. Could be the same sort of thing as present day RD has.


    Didn't they say that before the map was released, though?
    1) goes back to the whole "Fluttershy can barely fly" point. The thing is, there is wiggle room for the producers to give Fluuttershy more backstory; however, the cannon information presented points back to Cloudsdale (happened in THE episode that provided all of the origen information of the mane 6, establishing the backgrounds was basicaly the whole point of that episode, and Fluttershy's was established as Cloudsdale, along with Dash.) {Speaking of which, you could actually theorize that Fluttershy is responsible for getting everyone their cutie marks, but that's another topic for another day}

    2) I would need to know the exact date of that posters release to answer that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kd7sov View Post
    (My own personal Las Pegasus hypothesis is that it's a gambling hub built on clouds tethered to the side of a plateau.)
    We're never going to see a canon Las Pegasus.

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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    But there's a casino in my children shows/video games as well. (e.g. pokemon)

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Sigh* View Post
    But it's official Hasbro tender. It's the closest thing to canon you're going to get without it being in the actual show.
    And? I choose to disregard it, and since it is not the show - and therefore not actually canon - I can do so without contradiction.

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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    You know what I want to see? One of the main 6 get a new baby sibling or something, like a little brother. Preferably someone whose family we haven't seen yet, like Rainbow Dash or Fluttershy.

    Actually, come to think of it, those are the only ones who don't have siblings, period. Huh.
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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    Quote Originally Posted by williamcll View Post
    But there's a casino in my children shows/video games as well. (e.g. pokemon)
    Video games don't have much of an issue with gambling, due to their inherent nature / mechanics requirements for such games to actually HAVE gambling of some sort (but they strictly ban it in MMO's for obvious reasons and attempt to make most of such casinos rated/censored accordingly in other games, unless realism is enforced, like in GTA).

    Pokemon was originally Japanese and was simply dubbed / censored mildly for the rest of the world. If the casino was part of an episode, it's either keeping it or losing the whole episode since they'd have to edit it (Or, if the censors are particularly dickish, you get a fiasco like One Piece and 4kids).

    MLP:Fim is entirely American though. They'd get full enforcement of the censorship laws for the cartoons (since they get screened for it during production, to ensure its up to par before it airs). Alternately, there might be another "post airing edit" like there was with Derpy if enough angry parents/censorship lawyers complain about it.
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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    That's a little disappointing (about censorship and whatnot). I'd honestly go with the 'Scootaloo comes from Los Pegasus' suggestion if only because I think that having her suddenly recite the rules of Blackjack from memory would be pretty damn funny.

    That and Twilight getting dragged out of a casino for counting the cards.
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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    Great, now I'm imagining Twilight as Rain Man.

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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    I think, in show, Los Pegasus would be more significant in that it is the location of "Applewood" (Hollywood) than anything else.

    I think I convinced my family to get me S1 for Christmas (I recently convinced my sister to watch the entire series. She told me to let her know when S3 comes out... Mission Accomplished And then texted me: "sompony I know is gonna be very happy this Christmas." She started watching just to understand what I was talking about, but about halfway through season 1, she realized she was watching it because she actually enjoyed it.)

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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    Uhhh, Kiilek? Your link is a dud.

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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    what if Daisy's name really is Flower Wishes
    but Twilight is so antisocial that she doesn't actually know that
    and just assumes everyone is named after their cutie mark and doesn't realize this might be offensive?

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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    Quote Originally Posted by *Sigh* View Post
    Uhhh, Kiilek? Your link is a dud.
    ... I have no idea how that happened.

    That entire post is glitched.

    I just realised that Hasbro owns everything.
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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiilek Rekaur View Post
    ... I have no idea how that happened.

    That entire post is glitched.

    I just realised that Hasbro owns everything.
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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    I'm predicting that S3 will be anounced within the next two weeks.
    Just watch Season 3 air on Halloween
    We do have confirmation that the season is completed, right?

    Also.
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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    Alright, so I recently moved. With the recent move came new television service, and among the channels was the Hub. One day idly flicking through the guide with nothing better to watch, I noticed that MLP:FiM was going to be on. Given that I can't seem to go on the internet for more than three steps before finding something pony or brony related, even despite being on sites not even tangentially related to the show, I said screw it - might as well give it a shot, right? What's more, it even ended up being the series opening episodes (I could tell by the fact they were blatantly introductory in nature once I started watching.)

    And well... it's alright, I guess?

    I mean, don't get me wrong here - if I could somehow separate the show from the massive hype, I'd probably call it 'not bad, considering we're talking about My Little Pony'. But in light of the huge internet fandom? I'm kind of left wondering why everyone went so goddamn gaga over it. It might just be the nature of the two episodes I bothered watching, because they were left to introduce all the main characters (which was admittedly redundant for me, given its popularity has meant I already know all the mains and probably a decent chunk of the support as well.) There were also plenty of the cliches I would come to expect for a show with its intended target demographic - but less so for something that became so inexplicably popular among those nowhere near said demographic.

    I guess what I'm saying in a roundabout fashion is - where exactly does it reach the point where everybody fell so head-over-heels for it?
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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    Quote Originally Posted by Siegmundfried View Post
    I guess what I'm saying in a roundabout fashion is - where exactly does it reach the point where everybody fell so head-over-heels for it?
    A lot of people will point you to the Season two opener because of the villan in play. However, everyone has a different reason for liking it. Usually the strong characterization and solid animation, which is extremly rare for the type of show. I started watching it just to see what the hype was about as well, and realized that I loved it about six episodes in. I personaly feel that I took to it because it's enjoyable without resorting to crude or sexual humor like nearly all kid shows do these days, and thus I wouldn't feel bad letting children watch it.
    To really understand, though, you would probably need to watch more episodes than the pilot. (WARNING: know what your getting into. Very few people return from this journy without being transformed into horses. {Some do though, so it's not as inescapable as many imply} )

    I guess, to answer your question simply: it's different and defied expectations.

    I'm not sure if that's helpfull.

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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    As Kiilek said, it's different for everypony. In my case, it's a combination of the songs (which started in epsiode 2), the wordplay (which I first recall noticing in episode 6), and Fluttershy, added to the general verisimilitude, humor, and intelligence of all the characters.

    And if you find it's not something you can go gaga over? Don't feel bad or like you're missing out. My brother's the same way. He thinks it would be a good thing for his kids to watch, once he has kids, but he isn't going to watch it much on his own.

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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiilek Rekaur View Post

    Now, if your asking how it became noticable on the internet in the first place... 4chan. (sigh)
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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    I like the show because it actually has some decent conflicts that don't revolve around slice-of-life situations. Of course, most of the show is these situations, so the only episodes I'd really rewatch are the two-parters.
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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    The Hub‏@HubTVNetwork

    Just between us ponies, we're less than 30 days away from announcing the #MyLittlePony season 3 premiere date/time!
    Will be anounced some time before October 19.
    Also, reportedly, the Hub will anounce it four weeks before the premire, so

    X < 30 + 21, 29
    X < 51, 59

    Season 3 will be here by November 18 at the latest.

    It looks like the animation team is still working on the final markup of the later 6 episodes.
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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    I've always seen "why do so many people like this show?" as an interesting question. I think it's less about the show, and more about the tastes of the people who watch it. We don't watch it because it's a good show, we watch it because we enjoy it and it resonates with our personal taste. The actual quality of the show is completely irrelevant.

    The same goes for any and all media really.

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    Re: My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

    Mmm. Maybe yes, maybe no. I daresay things of higher quality resonate with the tastes of more (and better, if applicable) people.

    Of course, there's also the question of "can quality be measured objectively?" Or in other words, can it be measured separately from relation to personal taste? To which, I suspect, the answer is not completely either yes or no. See, for instance, the "so bad it's good" and "so bad it's bad" pages on TVTropes.

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