My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic: Thread 7: Derpy is NOT the seventh mane pony

[frostedWarlock]

As much as I like these ponified trolls, I don't think they'd actually have their signs for their cutie marks. I mean, 'being a Gemini' probably isn't Sollux's special talent, it would probably be like a computer or an ~ATH book or something, for example.

Belated response but I feel that works, because while putting their Aspect would be a much more fitting cutie mark, most Homestuck ponifications I've seen save that for God Tiers. Also, considering how ectobiology and timey shit works... yes. Every troll is destined to have their symbol. For Kids... it'd be more complicated than that. :v

Though I just realized that a ponyKankri would be a blank flank, and how that'd actually make sense in plain ol ponylogic due to Kankri apparently never realizing his Aspect potential.

[Violet CLM]

Horns are covered in hair just like hooves are covered in hair. Cutie marks are hair. Eyelashes are hair. Everything is hair.

[crash826]

I'd figure that a ponified troll would be a specific variety- hoofbeast, as opposed to basic pony, and a specific breed controlled into existence by Doc Scratch to create violent and self-non-valuing creatures as a race. So cutie marks would be issued by the state and imprinted into the flank magically, and they'd be used to identify trolls.

[Wesley Foxx]

It should be some sort of magic-conducting keratin if its a horn. Maybe bone if its some sort of Narwhal-esque modified extended tooth thing.

Trying to think of what color it should be raises all sorts of questions like 'how are they all these crazy colors to begin with?". But two answers would be either its similar to a nail or claw and happens to be pigmented the same as their coat, or it has a fine layer of hair covering it enough to recolor it. Or its just because it looks better that color. (The standard furry answer to "whyfor is that part that color and also how do tattoos on fur work?" which apparently cutie marks are on the hair itself)

[Violet CLM]

Thank you, Ponyville Confidential, for your confirmation that cutie marks are colored hair.

[gingerale]

Weeell the theory has been that the horns are hard keratin and in the ponyverse keratin conducts magic. The passive magic works through the hooves of the pegasi and earth ponies and it can affect through their coat and mane/tail as with rapidash!Twilight. The horns may have a layer of coat over them as some antlers do but I doubt that, it just may be they have hair growing out of them. So basically unicorn horns work as antennas for magic.

And also if you were a human in Equestria there's a chance you could learn to shoot lightning from your fingernails.

[PlaceHolder]

And also if you were a human in Equestria there's a chance you could learn to shoot lightning from your fingernails.

Gonna need some fresh batteries for that gun to fire.
Unless we're going off that "draw magic from the atmosphere" theory.

Also. why can't hooves actively use magic?
Does the keratin medium have to be pointy or something?

[gingerale]

Gonna need some fresh batteries for that gun to fire.
Unless we're going off that "draw magic from the atmosphere" theory.

Also. why can't hooves actively use magic?
Does the keratin medium have to be pointy or something?

Keratin doesn't cause the magic, it's more like how metal sticks work with radio waves. It has to come from somewhere else. I think some theorized there are glands beneath the horn that allow the unicorns to actively use magic.

[Zarhon]

A thing to note, in regards to horn/coat color, is that the horn, much like the rest of the body, changes color along with the coat/mane/eyes, when "discorded", although this can be justified due to it being a magic curse. On the other hand hoof, this also happens with Pinkie Pie through regular depression/mild insanity. Then again, this is Pinkie Pie.

And while were on the subject of pony biology: Pegasus wings! We've seen they have actual bones and... something else... inside of em (as visible by RD's x-ray, from "Read it and weep").

Also. why can't hooves actively use magic?

Because they're already filled with granulate, allowing them to pick up objects. Considering the hooves also need to support the whole body, there's probably no room for magic stuff.

Maybe horns are simply there to channel emotions/empathic feelings? It's entirely possible they are the mechanism for converting inner power (like friendship) or energy into magical force, like a combination of antenna/adaptor/transformer.

[Triangle Man]

Ponies are all made out of Cheesecake and their magic is them using their pure deliciousness to affect their immediate environment.

[Isoraqathedh]

I shall restate my conjecture that in the horn, some oxygen atoms have been altered so they can transmit signals in some nebulous subspace (c.f. redstone ether in WR-CBE) which can affect the laws of physics in some predetermined way.

[kd7sov]

A thing to note, in regards to horn/coat color, is that the horn, much like the rest of the body, changes color along with the coat/mane/eyes, when "discorded", although this can be justified due to it being a magic curse. On the other hand hoof, this also happens with Pinkie Pie through regular depression/mild insanity. Then again, this is Pinkie Pie.

Point of order: I think Applejack's hat also changed color, and I know her hair ties did. I'm not going to draw any conclusions re: what's what from Discord.

(Also, I've been wondering - has anypony on the show ever actually said "on the other hoof"? Because it fits linguistically, but I don't recall any specific instances.)

[Wesley Foxx]

When I do get around to watching the actual show, I'm sure that will be one of the minor things that annoys me. I get enough "don't use words like "hands" EVER even if you're not actually specifically talking about the body part" from reading Redwall books.

[kd7sov]

I will tell you a story, Wesley.

I started watching at the end of May, last year. I was seriously weirded out by the "everypony" and so on.
In July of last year, I started roleplaying as Fluttershy. I had gotten over a little of the "this is weird", but still kept having to "correct" myself.
About a year ago, prompted by curiosity and the wait for Season 2, I started watching the original, 1980s My Little Pony show. Which is not bad, actually, although the animation and dialogue are less polished.
Some three minutes in, a pony - Bowtie, I think - says something like, "Everyone, into the castle!" And my "something's odd here" went off.

So yes, it grows on you. And besides, as far as "hoof" instead of "hand" goes, ponies appear to be the dominant species, with other ungulates forming the majority of intelligent creatures. The only things I can think of with hands off the top of my head are dragons, Diamond Dogs, and monsters minotaurs.

[Wesley Foxx]

It just bugs me a little, because you're already speaking the human English language. If its all miniature-equine-centric there should probably be a lot of words that are changed entirely that are less obvious than hand->hoof. Additionally, in the other direction, I'm completely on .mov Spike with the whole "you know, you can just say (anyone/anybody)." Its not like ponies aren't individuals, or lack bodies, and it includes the other sentient races to boot. I suppose this is the pony equivalent of getting mad at people who say "you guys" to refer to a non-gender-exclusive group of people. :B

[Zarhon]

It just bugs me a little, because you're already speaking the human English language. If its all miniature-equine-centric there should probably be a lot of words that are changed entirely that are less obvious than hand->hoof. Additionally, in the other direction, I'm completely on .mov Spike with the whole "you know, you can just say (anyone/anybody)." Its not like ponies aren't individuals, or lack bodies, and it includes the other sentient races to boot. I suppose this is the pony equivalent of getting mad at people who say "you guys" to refer to a non-gender-exclusive group of people. :B

I think the "everypony" bit might actually be a special "empathic" language trait of the ponies, who are by nature emotional and social. "Everypony" is much more empathic (referring to living, breathing creatures, the ponies), as opposed to "everybody" (referring to "body", a corpse, an "object", rather than a living creature), which seems impersonal, cold, literally lifeless. It is also much more "attention grabbing" for ponies, who would surely react by reflex to the sound of their name (a behavior that also occurs with names: You automatically react to the sound of your name and even to words that sound similar to your name).

[Violet CLM]

It's much more empathic to ponies. Language asserts dominance, and man, screw those zebras/griffons/etc.

[Zarhon]

It's much more empathic to ponies. Language asserts dominance, and man, screw those zebras/griffons/etc.

I think the zebras, griffons, mules and similar quadropeds/equines actually count as "pony". Maybe "pony" means to ponies the same as "humanoid" means to humans (in other words, reffering to equine-like creatures). Minotaurs, for instance, are called monsters. Dragons also probably fit there.

And besides, even non pony ponies get called that (Big Mac, for instance, is not so much a pony as he is a stallion. Princess Celestia also counts as a pony.). And I think even non-pony creatures use the word (do the dragon teens use anypony as a word?).

[Violet CLM]

So... four legs good, two legs bad.

(The dragons do not call themselves ponies, but the ponies do.)

[Zarhon]

Actually, they even refer to Discord as "pony". I suppose it's the whole "head of a pony" part. That, or he counts as four legged in a "natural pose", but we never see it due to his weirdness, serpentine body and ability to levitate.

As for the dragons, I guess it's just ingrained language. Or it's a result of being so much with Spike, who they consider a honorary pony.

Pony pony pony.

Pony.

[JordanTH]

Pony pony pony.

Pony.

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I think this is the second time I've posted this in one of these threads

[Zarhon]

Also, these three:

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I dread the day the show comes up in Croatia (if ever). The dubs are bound to be horrifying. Gimme translation subs any day.

[JordanTH]

Dear Celestia, it loops!

[Triangle Man]

Okay, I was browsing images out of boredom, and...

...Well, this one is somewhat off colour, but I honestly freaking lost it when I read his.



(Although you probably need to have seen FMA to get it...)

And those videos...have so much 'Pony' in them...

Pony Pony Pony?

[Zarhon]

Dear Celestia, it loops!

Some things are not meant to be looped. To do so is to end civilization. Like this:



And here is a looping version.