[S] Calliope: Exit

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[Psiberpunk]

So uh

Why was the Cruxtruder blapck? They've all been white before.

Corrupted by Caliborn's innate desire to watch the worlds burn?

Magic Cherub-session reasons?

Did Hussie run out of white paint for them?

We may never know.

[mas369]

Also I just rewatched the Flash, and in my opinion, there is not enough story left for the plot twists necessary to make uu NOT Lord English.

You assume that Homestuck is anywhere near done. Trust me, we still probably have at least a year to go at minimum. AT MINIMUM!!!

[Freack]

Homestuck is awesome and we are all confused

And Cals machine was blac because if it was white it would not fit in with the dark color scheme of the planet.

Dude, I know there is a year to go, give or take.

uu is Lord English. Dave's Hair is a bird. Hussie has amazing lips. We are atating basic facts here.

[JordanTH]

Recap. I think it's all accurate.

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The flash opens with uu transforming into UU; his cheek-swirls fade from lime to red, and then, for no obvious reason, to a fully red circle. UU wakes up. He bites off his shackled leg, losing a tooth in the process, thereby explaining LE's peg-leg and gold tooth. He replaces his missing leg with a robotic leg which was shown earlier, and which UU indicated that Dirk helped him to create. We see that his strife portfolio allows him to wield a cane and an assault rifle; the weapons LE used to kill Hussie.

UU ascends to the roof, sets up a Cruxtruder, and releases a green Kernelsprite. The Cruxtruder indicates that he will only enter at "~U" - that is, in ~ATH terms, he will enter when the universe ends. For no obvious reason, his kernelsprite becomes a black hole. He calmly sits with his back to the black hole, making no obvious attempt to create or activate his entry object. The black hole consumes the meteor, followed by the rest of Caliborn's planet, and then begins to consume his planet's sun, in a way that's visually similar to a drawing on Calliope's wall.

Meanwhile, Lord English uses his Cairo Overcoat to teleport away from the author-world (where he recently killed Hussie) to the Furthest Ring. Curiously, this teleportation involves a colorful version of the spirograph imagery associated strongly with Sburb. He then invades the dreambubble which hosted the composite planet featured in [S] Roxy: Sleepwalk (which is distinct from the dreambubble which hosted the recent meeting of Aranea, Meenah and the meteor). He descends onto a Time Player's quest bed, draws Calliope's white wand, and begins casting a spell. He then releases a colorful mouth-laser which utterly destroys the dreambubble, as well as dissolving at least a dozen dead kids.

This destruction leaves behind some sort of trace; a glass-like crack in the Furthest Ring, which glows in English's colors, and is surrounded by heavily wounded horrorterrors. We see PM and Jack looking at this crack, having stopped fighting temporarily. They stare at one another in shock. Dave, standing on the roof of the meteor lab, also notices the crack.

Pretty good but you mixed up your cherubs (uu is Caliborn, UU is Calliope). Also, his sprite was both his and Calliope's at once and that didn't go over so well, thus the black hole I suppose.

Also am I the only one who saw the meteor disappear like an entry?

[megaminxwin]

Damn thing closed before I could post. Oh well.

Because this is the Grittyer and Darker version.

Cal had it painted

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Yeah, I think it would probably ook kind of too... stark if it where white, so he just turned it black and decided the fans could just DEAL WITH IT.

Something to do with the session perhaps???

Anyway, thanks Frost. I shall try to make sense of that, and then post some theories.

[recalcitrantIre]

damnit ash I was editing my post to correct someone
oh well, welcome back!

Calliope doesn't have a U. Rose Lalonde doesn't have a T, Jade Harley doesn't have a G, and Feferi Peixes doesn't have a C. The only examples where this is shown to be true are Aradia, Jake and Dirk. Not enough to be a rule.

fits with his quirk, I guess?

/shrugs

Also am I the only one who saw the meteor disappear like an entry?

Nope, I definitely saw that happen. Not sure if I remarked on it or not.

probably wouldn't have made a difference, my mp3 player has shitty recording quality

[Frost]

Also am I the only one who saw the meteor disappear like an entry?

I looked very closely for that. The meteor starts to glow white independently, then it's sucked in to the black hole; the rest of the planet then glows white and gets sucked in.

[Xeivous]

Well I honestly did not expect this to happen. I was expecting everyone to enter the "void" session.

This, well I don't even know, makes me forget the pain in my knee somewhat...

[Freack]

Question. So, I know she could not GO over to uu's side of the room, but did she notice the robot leg?

That should have raised questions.

[Wulf]

I... don't know how to feel about this.

On the one hand, Caliborn is kind of badass, if evil. Wasn't expecting him to CHEW his own leg off. On the other hand, all the dead trolls and dead Daves (and that one dead John) are probably out of the story for good now...

On top of all that, there was ONE specific moment of the flash that stuck with me. Right before he uses the wand, the way his head twitched... it seems reminiscent of the way the hands move on the curtain clocks. Actually, two things call to me, thinking about it. We just about saw how everything leads to his appearance as Lord English. He chewed his own leg off, breaking a tooth in the process. Presumably, he'll alchemized his walking stick and leg and lost tooth with something golden or just upgraded through the eons... but his eyes are still eyes through the whole flash.

[techTalkative]

I am kinda sad. This flash was so awesome but so dark!
Do you remember Bec Noir? The Condesce? Gcat? Gamzee? Any threat any player of any session ever faced pales in comparison with the raw amount of power that LE possess. Some people have already stated this but i'll say it again:

Consider that an universe has infinite timelines born from the key decisions that players face and from the non-stable timeloops of time players.
If you consider this, then there's an infinite number of doomed players and a huge number of god tiers with godly powers like Jade.
And this infinite number is twice bigger (at least) because of the two universes we've seen till this moment.

You know what LE did to this massive amount of players? He wiped them out like they were shit. He even hurt (killed?) some Horrorterrors. The fuck.

Everything that happened on homestuck before this flash looks so tiny. Now the real game begins and i've no idea how could someone even defeat English. (saying Calliope out loud? seriously? pfffft)

OBS: uu is awesome and dat page outfit.

[mysteriousOutsider]

That was crazy

gah okay I am so far back in I NEED MORE HOMESTUCK NOW

also Malcolm Brown is a super cool music guy

[recalcitrantIre]

Well I honestly did not expect this to happen. I was expecting everyone to enter the "void" session.

We've already had the B2 players entering though

and a land revelation is more of a beginning of act thing


so, whos up for some more hiatus super fun time?

[mas369]

Dude, I know there is a year to go, give or take.

uu is Lord English. Dave's Hair is a bird. Hussie has amazing lips. We are atating basic facts here.

I like how you believe that a year isn't enough time to torpedo the idea that uu is LE.

They are obviously connected, that is true, but that doesn't mean they have to be the same person. LE could just as easily be Caliborn's (ecto)father/son or something else along those lines.

[Xeivous]

We've already had the B2 players entering though

and a land revelation is more of a beginning of act thing


so, whos up for some more hiatus super fun time?

I meant meteor/jadeship

[Freack]

Yeah. Everything htat separates uu from LE was explained, except for his size and his eyes.

Also, what of the Hero of Time Quest bed? Is LE about to God Tier, r was that place recently vacated? Because if LE is as powerful as he is is NOT tiered yet, then I think I just pissed my pants a little.

uu is LE

This is TRUFAXX

Every other Fact can go home.

Broken teeth do not run in families.

LE has a hate crush on Dirk. My life is awesome.

[Wulf]

Question. So, I know she could not GO over to uu's side of the room, but did she notice the robot leg?

That should have raised questions.

Possibly she didn't think he'd actually do it and break the rules of their game. Or she couldn't tell what it was. Or he kept it well-hidden until we saw it.

[Golden-Yoghurt]

This is gonna be pretty exciting, the storylines are beginning to converge!

fact 1: dead selves can be killed (is it for good this time?)
fact 2: dream bubbles can be destroyed (did he destroy all of them????)
fact 3: uu is almost certainly Lord English

oh my god how did the black hole come about anyway??

[Phosphorescence]

Wow, god tier page outfit not really what I was expecting but oddly fitting.

At least Jake can wear those gun holster thigh straps without worrying about bunching up his shorts

[boredum1029]

Alright, I think Hussie is trying to make us think that Caliborn is LE, but I think it may be Calliope.

Calliope's dream self is dead, and her real self is asleep, so she must be in a dream bubble.
LE also has Calliope's wand, this cannot just be a coincidence, especially since Hussie made it.

Amazing update!

[NMcCoy]

So, I'm probably late to this, but - Calliope, Caliborn, Cal as Juju which is a significant thing to them...?

[Frost]

Also, what of the Hero of Time Quest bed? Is LE about to God Tier, r was that place recently vacated? Because if LE is as powerful as he is is NOT tiered yet, then I think I just pissed my pants a little.

LE was in a dreambubble, which transforms to mimic the memories of its occupants, and/or in a way that's thematically appropriate (hence the Felt Mansion in the background). LE is presumably a god-tier Lord of Time, explaining the appearance of a Time quest bed. Worth noting that the cherubs don't have beds, so the human-looking quest bed is probably Dave's.

[Freack]

Lord English JUST took the wand from Hussie after he killed him.

Cali may play a part in the story.

But LE is a TIME player. Did anyone see the bed? Or have an explanation?

You posted while I was writing edit: I think the bed featured to heavily to just a be a set drop. It will be important somehow. It has to be.

Because HS.

Also, uu is LE

[Wessolf27]

You know what's really scary? If you wait long enough at the end of the flash, you could actually hear Savior of the Waking World playing, it's really faint and tiny, but it's there.