[Game Over] Potato Cult Mafia (The End of the ALFDM - Mafia/Survivor Win)

[AProcrastinatingWriter]

...ah, there we go, I see now.

I wouldn't be able to hammer in situation A. It wouldn't be hammer.

Still a dangeorous situation, I think. Two townies start a wagon on another (one if one is Masterblade, followed by Airey), scum THEN piles their votes on, then I hammer.

Not quite as much of a gamble now, but still pretty gambley. But again, option B is sure thing from my perspective.

[anacreon]

I will say this i have not lied about who i tried to shoot or did shoot.
Only ruse i had was pretending to be the vig which was working well untill APW blew it for me.

[Potato Panic]

Hey, okay, first off, a PSA on post count:

By the by, Potato Panic, Sruixan, and Seastorm? You all have less posts than 10 of the dead people. Crilly is close, but I'm giving him a pass because he replaced in.
Can we replace everyone who hasn't posted more than 15 times in this thread? I would like to do that. Please.

Cause I'd be lying if I said this didn't piss me off a little. (Not directly you Fwee, just this entire preconceived notion) Firstly, the post is not a unit of measurement. The post is not a guaranteed container of content or content quality and you can't generalise it. Some of us have our free time spread out differently and condense the same information into 1 post that another play would do over time in 3 or 4. Posts =/= quality. This is how active lurkers who post often but have near enough nothing to add slip past the radar against people who infrequently post but are wally.
I mean let's talk about Crilly, who I believe is scum but I can't vote for because mylo and 3Ps about and we'll talk about later.
Here's every single post Crilly's made:

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Hai guys, I have reads if you want th- okay just take them anyway

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CC: I've wanted to lynch him since like #100 lol and then #126 #128 #131 list goes on and on and on (and voting for oz, and saying 'i'm doing a very bad job at this game' is yum)
MB: Even if you're not scum I want you dead somehow (also I really think you are scum, so bluh)
Epam: #145+#146 is bleh bleh bleh but mostly town beside that
Oz: TOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWNNNNNN+acio's blessing is good (also makes me want to lynch GX slightly )
Acio: I can't tell between Acio scum and Acio town but gut tells me town, honestly.
Fwee: just look at all her/his posts all I see is fake scum presence (also that little bit of paranoia about lynching cop/doc is delicious)
PP: Townish I guess (when s/he appears at least I liked those posts)
Inox: posts reasonably but yeah eh
Para: Eh, para is para and thus fine for now.
Anac: Not actually liking his posts too much. Sorta seem 'I'm trying to be townie without doing anything at all
GX: Really disliking fight between him and Oz, but bigger fish
Doof: Would of been null, but readwall was really bad just look at it
CD: hai town
Airey+Zatch+Sruix+Sea+Supah+Scion+Thunder+iE: all need talking more

Vote: CC

Some vague readwalling without reasons followed by an easy bandwagon onto something that turns into a mislynch.

I voted!

Correcting votals

Cool. This doesn't actually change anything anyway, but extensions are always nice.

Bland comment about extensions

All of your reasons for calling me scum are bad! Just saying!

Also doofaeus your wall was bad because it was terrible. Also, your opinions were bad.

also fwee voting MB gives me a headache

also my opinions have not changed at all. so, Vote: Fwee mainly because his MB post makes me sad. (although anacreon isn't making this easy, fyi)

"You're opinions are bad but I'm not going to say why"

Fwee, I was going to go do the

'Neutral, leaning scum'
'leaning scum'
'SCUM

but I'm lazy.

Also both could be used if you had no other reasons, but you do! I made a readwall, base some opinions of that (it's not big, but it has opinions, that's definitely worth something)

Joining CC's bandwagon and him turning up would also be notable if I had no reasons, but I mentioned several posts of his that are completely terrible! Whatever guide you're reading is (probably) useful but taking them blindly is a bad idea (exceptions always exist, meta changes etc etc)

A fair opinion but not particularly productive

I don't get this.

I don't get this at all.

Vague self denfense

The question still very much stands. Also I am also confused why I am apparently lurking. Despite the fact that I've pretty much been only in my bed for the past few days, I've posted pretty regularly, and since this game is pretty goddamn slow, I haven't bothered posting unless I had a good reason to.

Clarification about defense. Note the "I've posted regularly!" which is true. But look back over the previous posts and tell me how Crilly has been helpful. This is active lurking.

Epamy = scum (but would only vote em if it was between him and anyone but MB/lurkers/Anac)
Anacreon = scum

(also I meant to Vote: Anac last post, because Fwee is going to nowhere, and as Aci says 'Fwee is probably town because life's not fair')

Also Doofaeus, your readwall was bad because your opinions were wrong. I didn't think I needed to explain myself here.

This one's fair enough I guess.

I don't agree with that fact.

(Response to Fwee: opinions can't be wrong)
Semantics.

Yeah.

That was when I was sick and posting was a huge inconvenience, and I just couldn't stop myself from pointing out how dumb that statement was.

Yup.

:VV

Vote: Epammy

(after Ana's vig claim)
So.

Okay yes I'm terrible but wanna say something that has some sorta meaning as Aci but different line

why do you say townblocker and not blocker

like what

there's no (balanced) vig for mafia so like, no counters doesn't mean anything about a blocker being town

Great.

Doesn't that just strike you as so helpful? Hm?
No, me neither.
By the way I'm sorry that daystarted yesterday while I was asleep but that's really not my fault.
Also in case you missed it yesterday the spoilered content in this:

I'm just doing this because I'm very confused : c It's sort of Soc-ey so be warned

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Fwee

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SUMMARY? I think I've liked Fwee more over time. The fluff and angry post day 1 made me rather worried at the time but now I just think that her posts seem very straight up and town feeling. Not to mention the thing that Para pointed out about about not realising the janitor kill on Gene. JUDGEMENT? Most likely town. COALIGNED W/? Prrooooobably not (knowingly) with Acio, InoxFy, Oz or Masterblade. Maaaaybe aligned Para or Doof if we're really pushing it under a "fwee is scum" scenario.

SupahKiven --> Paranoia 2.0

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SUMMARY? SupahKiven was a little wargle blah. And also apparently a busy guy. He sort of slipped from my awareness for the period he was in the game and looking back it really doesn't seem like there was a lot going on. Just some small comments that were pretty fluffed in nature. Para comes in and sounds sort of angry but productive? JUDGEMENT? Kinda grey really, but I think probably leaning scum because para hasn't really redeemed what i thought of kiven and COALIGNED W/? Probably not (knowingly) APW, iE. Coalign with Acio maybe, I can see Inox if I squint really hard.

InoxFy

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SUMMARY? Originally I got sort of good feels from day 1 but looking back I think that's probably because I was scrambling for reads and there's a little bit of just-out-of-RVS perception distortion. I actually think I kind of dislike the day one debacle in fact. It looks a little white knighty. The rest of his stuff sort of just flits in and out without making to many ripples but still enough opinions to give the illusion of presence. JUDGEMENT? I would saaaay possible scum. At this point in the game. COALIGNED W/? Oz? That seems a little obvious though so maybe not. Not sure about the rest.

seastormjt

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SUMMARY? Sea where are you : c I had sort of town feels but I'm kind of having major doubts here when it is mylo, officially to end almost 24 hours from now a sea's nowhere to be seen JUDGEMENT? I would guess at scum based off of a lack of content and also lurking. COALIGNED W/? Maybe not (k) aligned with Para 2.0 although it's kind of flimsy

Acionyx

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SUMMARY? Where do I start? Acio is someone I have never seen scumplay from so I have no idea what scumAcio looks. His play on it's on does seem town and he's persistent in moving this thing forward. So I'd reeeeally like to say I'm sure he's town but he's sort of been pretty pushy with the lynches but then again that is a thing Acio generally tends to do because most people trust his judgement when they think he's towny and a lot of people have noted him as probably town with the small exception of APW. If he flips scum I am going to turn this game on it's head but for now I'm saying town for the sheer proactiveness JUDGEMENT? Town COALIGNED W/? If Acio flipped scum I think Masterblade would be the next person in my crosshairs. Also would be suspicious of Para 2 and Oz.

El Ninja Monkey --> Crilly

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SUMMARY? ENM had to reaplace out pretty early so that's kind of not a thing. Crilly's stuff is sort of sparse in content though and the few shifts I do see point towards our various mislynches and also anacreon before the claim. There's only been 1 post day 3 and it's one about semantics. JUDGEMENT? 2/10 would shoot. COALIGNED W/? Gonna take a shot at saying not Fwee and that's about all I can see.

Scionwoods --> AProcrastinatingWriter

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SUMMARY? Scionwoods was pratically none existant with a single RVS vote and a dot dot dot unto the wind. APW is somewhat of a conditional read on me, his opinions seem a lot less mainstream thinking and against the current. I don't really like that you eventually decided to jump Epamy's wagon late over something as small as not voting for you when he said he thought you were scummy? I think that's only really a thing if you're scumbuddies trying to hash suspiscion without action. Or maybe even if he just forgot. JUDGEMENT? Could be scum. Depends a lot on iE flip, also Acio flip. COALIGNED W/? Maybe iE, probably not Acio unless crazy wine

Airey

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SUMMARY? Lyncher : c or rather claimed lyncher. Unless the Masterblade distaction throughout the whole game WAS A RUSE he's probably the 3P worry he claims he is. It'd be nice to see him shot if our lynch hits okay. JUDGEMENT? 3P claim is probably true. Probably. COALIGNED W/? Himself! Outside of that if there's a curveball then just not Masterblade. Nope.

anacreon

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SUMMARY? Claimed vig. Seems to be the truth about it too due to no counterclaim. Most of the town read stems from his claim which is usually a little worrying but the claim seems so believable I'm okay with this. JUDGEMENT? Most likely town. COALIGNED W/? I'm not sure?

MasterBlade

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SUMMARY? I wish people wouldn't just say Masterblades as good as townfirmed like where is this even coming from, all he did is make a vanilla claim and suddenly you're telling me he's probably town because of it? The rest of his exisistance sort of drifts in and out. JUDGEMENT? I'm okay with slapping a scum sticker on this unless someone wants to flat out tell me what is so utterly towny about him. COALIGNED W/? Acio maybe considering he took the vanilla claim and ran with it. Practially anti aligned confirmed with Airey (not that this means much if Airey's telling the truth).

Doofaeus

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SUMMARY? Waaaaaaa Doof is kind of everywhere. I think some of the posts kind of cop out on responsibility a little, like that "I now don't trust my vote due to Kiven", also no matter what you said that heel face turn with Acio was : U For that reason it's touching the scum spectrum. JUDGEMENT? Mid scum. COALIGNED W/? Not Crilly

irrelevantEternity

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SUMMARY? Blech. There's a lot of reasons to make me think that iE COULD be scum but like I said before there's something about the conditions of this lynch that I don't like. For the first thing, there's prolonged lurking (a little hypocritical I know) and that roleclaim seems veeeeeeeery convinient for the current circumstances (I probably should've been a bit smarter and held out until the claim but). At the same time however I feel like everyone is sliding onto this lynch and it's not making me feel great when we are at mylo and scum either isn't bothering to push the lynch away from iE (at least not actively from what I've noticed, I think APWs the only one sort of actively contesting it). I mean seeing iE flip would be informative but I'm still really confused about which way I think it's gonna go. For now I'd rather stick my vote on someone else. JUDGEMENT? ???? COALIGNED W/? Not k coaligned with Acio or Para.

Around time of typing I am now getting booted of this computer so no more coaligned theories till next post because no time also I might do the following people again for more depth till then this is as fast as I can type. So sort of subject to change.

crepuscularDissembler

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SUMMARY? I'm good with Seedy, I like the opinions and also the posts. They feel very genuine and town in their formation. JUDGEMENT? Leaning town

OzTheWizard

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SUMMARY?
Mmmm, I like most of his posts really and think that he's probably town due to a mixture of good opinions I think are organically formed.
JUDGEMENT?
Probably town.

Sruixan

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SUMMARY? His opinions are nice if a bit lengthy, I like his reasoning although wishing he was around more often I would hedge to say that he's using town deductions. The only bad thing I would say is Airey as top lynch both times seems a little nonconfrontational. JUDGEMENT? Leaning town.

I might go over this again when I'm not getting shouted at from the next room over.
Scum teams?
If iE scum then
iE, APW, Doof, Crilly, Inox, MBlade, Seastorm.
If iE town then join Acio and Para 2 to the party but take out APW.
Airey on the occassion he's lying can switch in with probably MBlade, Inox or Doof.

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I THROW MY HANDS UP IN THE AIR SOMETIMES

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SHOUTING "AAAAYO

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what's even going on on this game god"

This thing took me a long time, practically the entire day. You can ask me for evidence if you really want it but putting it in as standard would have made this 10 times more painful. In honesty I don't really have a lot of confidence in identifying co aligns anyway so that last section is very touch and go.
For now I think the person I'm most certain about is vote: Crilly and he appears in both my scum teams and is flying under the radar! Booooo. I might make a seperate post for that in the morning. And do some tweaking.
Sidenote: What does +ev actually *mean*?

Makes the word count for this 1 post around double all of Crilly's posts together. And yeah Crilly did replace in, but it was still day 1 when he did and he hasn't done anything since. I'm not trying to pull an "I'm so towny" here but I am talking to you. I'm trying.
So that's it, PSA over, this is all me being meta irritated with that comment and probably not that helpful but please stop because if people are inactive enough to warrant a replacement TehPiolet will deal with it, otherwise they're dealing with IRL stuff and will be here later or are scum in which case we should shoot. What sort of towny purposely lurks at mylo? Trust me, the pokes aren't needed at this point. Lurking stands for itself. And I know I'm not on as often as I should be but giving you excuses doesn't change anything. I'm sorry.

BACK TO GAME STUFF

In the meantime I want to vote: Potato Panic. Her indirect attempt to lend credibility to iE's fakeclaim leads me to believe that she's also scum.

Okay sure, I understand but would just like to reaffirm that I really didn't lie about getting blocked N2. The real question is did anyone get blocked last night? If so then the blocker is still alive and almost certainly scum. If not then one of two things being either Gene was the blocker and iE as janitor faked that role or alternatively the blocker is non-compulsive or aimed for a scum buddy who wouldn't tell, because they anticipated the first possibility and want to throw us off. The former is more likely but the latter isn't out of question.

So the SK has Acio's vest.
Shit.

Feel like explaining how you know this?

also APW I would Feel Better if you could explain your role a bit more?
how exactly do you get powers/what are the conditions that must be met
what did you do each night
etc.

I'd also like to hear this. Particularly a what did you do each night thing.
If we're going to do a guess which 3P is lying then, it's pretty much between Airey and APW as others have mentioned due to ana having some sort of killing skill to back him up, after all I can't see mafia getting 2 kills a night and town vig wouldn't claim sk unless gambits.
Problem is if there is a busser out there and it isn't one shot, every night from now that ana's alive he/she can redirect the kill and net 2 townies in one. Doing the math means if that happens THIS IS NOT A GOOD SITUATION WE ARE IN. And somehow we really need to get rid of anacreon or that busser.

NINJA'D GOSH DANGIT
BUT YEAH STILL STANDS.

[anacreon]

scum spects
Crilly
Seedy
Inoxfy
Sru

those 4 are my lowest reads.
Vote Crilly i am the most comfortable with lynching in that group..

[Potato Panic]

A problem with the lynch anacreon plan is that everyone who says the are 3p NEEDS to be 3p (apart from ana who could also be scum wouldn't that be a blessing) otherwise the numbers don't work out and we'll have stabbed ourselves in the foot. Also with reagrds to who I think is scum, Crilly and Sea are definitely my strong ones and then Seedy and Sruxian are all sort of jostley because I haven't actually looked at them properly but they weren't on the iE wagon and there's also Airey who I'm sort of sketchy about claim legitimacy because it sort of seems to be this person accused me of tunneling --> claim lyncher.
Oh yeah, and this is a loooooovely bit of wine with no explanation that I'm currently not buying because someone comes up with a plan to kill you? Whoops! Pull out a extra life, they won't gambit that at mylo.

If you want know why i am not dead it is because i am a SK with an extra life.

????sigh

[crepuscularDissembler]

crepuscularDissembler, I don't like you. You just seem scummy in general. Why was your first post this day only focused on APW?

BECAUSE HE CLAIMED 3P WITH A GUILTY ON ANACREON?

Like
ok I guess I could have said other things but I'm pretty sure "this guy is an sk and I have mechanical evidence" is not a weird thing to focus on at all
seeing as (like APW said) today may be our last chance to actually get rid of him
soo ooo yeah unless a flavorcop wants to claim that they checked someone as having an affinity for public transportation vehicles then lynching anacreon is the best choice

...ow we couwd get him to pwetty pwease pwomise not to be nasty and kiww anyone tonight, wight?

-also Acio flipped BOD and he said he was gonna give it to anacreon
so that's what we're assuming happened

(btw I wasn't on the iE wagon because a 3p was pushing a false guilty on a townmember )
also oh yay we have a Scoffles now
I was feeling good about the Doofaeus slot beforehand (even despite weirdnesses) so I don't have to be worried about being tricked by his towny glamours
although I'd disagree with him about Airey being DEFINITELY SCUM because no matter what he is scum would definitely rather have Acio or Para dead than him
and mechanically for scum
dead town> dead 3p
dead town> dead scum
so yeah I'd say that's an inconclusive point

my scumreads:
Crilly
InoxFy
seastorm
Potato Panic

although honestly I don't have much of a read on seastorm or Sruixan, but the town Acio seemed to like the latter (they both need to post)
hmm
honestly just the fact that it's hard to make a proper scumlist out of the remaining is making me come around to the idea of Aireyscum
in which case
Airey
MasterBlade
Crilly
InoxFy

sounds right
hmm
I'm not quite willing to go ahead and not lynch the sk though :L
vote anacreon for now
TehPilot votals pls

[imperviousScofflaw]

And in a set of bizarre circumstances I want a flavor claim from Airey I think

[Fwee]

See? I suck at being a leader. I already made two people mad at me. This is why I asked for other people.
Should I claim? Everyone else seems to be... >\\\>

Anacreon, you have nothing to lose if you side with town until the end of the game. If you don't kill tonight, then there will be one kill on a townie. If you really DO have a survival, mafia won't bother to shoot you because they need to spend their time killing town.

PP, I voted for Crilly, not any of you lurker-like people. That should say something. :/

APW, you're voting for Anacreon who is not on your list of scumreads. Actually, for your scumreads, you have two townies, a potential teammate thrown in, and Sruixan who is just sort of there. :/ Brilliant work, detective. Would you like a medal?

My scum list? Crilly, Sruixan, crep (maybe?), and MasterBlade.
I would like to point out that MasterBlade said he was vanilla
he didn't say which faction.
I rest my poor case. :|

Also, it seems that a lot of us dislike Crilly. I would like Crilly themself to come in and point out a better suspect, maybe. :/

[TehPilot]

Votals from the moon

anacreon (2) (AProcrastinatingWriter, crepuscularDissembler)
Potato Panic (1) (InoxFy)
Crilly (3) (Fwee, OzTheWizard, anacreon)
Airey (1) (imperviousScofflaw)

Abstaining (6) (seastormjt, Crilly, Airey, MasterBlade, Potato Panic, Sruixan)

Day Four ends August 26th, 10PM EST. (~96 hours)
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch and 4 to softlynch.

[anacreon]

Fwee for now it best that i do side with town. It is in my own best interest as well.
all sides want me dead is the other thing as well.
So, far all my targets have just been the lurkers/inactive people that town has no problem with them dieing.
However from now on i am not going to say who i am planning to kill just so my shot doesnt get bussed again or the chances get reduced.

Fwee you make good points i could just not shoot some one although i actually decide on that depending on the flip of the person we lynch.

@PP: Think what you want only thing i have lied about all game was being the vig. I could have actually let that d2 lynch bounce off me but decided that drawing a nk would be a bit more helpful.
another bit of information is that a kill did infact bounce off of me the night Zatch was killed. I was actually unsure of the source since I wanted to see if the gx martyr thing was real or not but i am sure it was a vig shot that bounced off of me now. about 80% sure.

Fwee you make a point i can choose not to shoot some one as well.

[AProcrastinatingWriter]

APW, you're voting for Anacreon who is not on your list of scumreads. Actually, for your scumreads, you have two townies, a potential teammate thrown in, and Sruixan who is just sort of there. :/ Brilliant work, detective. Would you like a medal?

See the rest of that is my opinion disagreeing with yours

But as for anacreon have you been paying attention to what I've been saying at all

[crepuscularDissembler]

Anacreon, you have nothing to lose if you side with town until the end of the game. If you don't kill tonight, then there will be one kill on a townie. If you really DO have a survival, mafia won't bother to shoot you because they need to spend their time killing town.

nope anacreon will either
-kill a scum member tonight if we mislynch (REMINDER: HE CAN MISS AND HIT TOWN, IN WHICH CASE GAAAAAAME OVER.)
-kill a townie if we lynch scum
it is in his BEST INTERESTS to keep the status quo of mylo so that we can't get rid of him
he CANNOT joint with you
his wincon OPPOSES yours
he is NOT your friend

My scum list? Crilly, Sruixan, crep (maybe?), and MasterBlade.

p.s. Airey is currently vouching for MasterBlade's innocence so if you think he's scum then you have to also think Airey is lying
let me phrase it as a question
Fwee, do you think Airey is lying? If so, what is the truth?
there is a secondary option of TehPilot being a bastard but we'll ignore that because slander is not nice

also agreeing with Scoffles that a flavorclaim from Airey might be fun n cool

[crepuscularDissembler]

wait let me point out why anacreon no killing is not a thing that will happen
if we lynch scum today and only one town dies, it will most likely no longer be potential mylo
in which case we can kill him without worrying!
NOT EXACTLY IN HIS BEST INTERESTS

we kill him NOW or we curse his sudden but inevitable betrayal

[Airey]

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You are Kaori Hiragi, Hopeless Yandere Girl. The real question, though, is just how hopeless are you? We'll say you're pretty hopeless, even though you are in a healthy relationship your significant other still wishes to have intercourse with most of the people around you. The concept of rejection by anyone deeply upsets you. However, thanks to this all this ruckus caused by a group called the Potato Cult, you can fulfill your desires and make your partner yours forever and ever.

flavor above, had to type it all out since you cant paste from QT.

Now before people jump the goat there is still a chance that masterblade is scum. If he isnt scum then scum would of tried for a joint win by now.

[imperviousScofflaw]

Yo Mastahblade


Does that ^ match up with you in any way?

[Airey]

Yo Mastahblade


Does that ^ match up with you in any way?

let me stop you right there. i picked my "other" d1 start. i picked masterblade cause i though he would be an easy lynch. i was wrong.

[MasterBlade]

If you want know why i am not dead it is because i am a SK with an extra life.

Every time he says this. ASDFGHJKL ACIO DIED FOR YOU >:O

MasterBlade, please give your opinion on pretty much everything that has happened.

I believe this summarizes everything in general. People say crazy shit, we lynch on crazy shit, we claim on being lynched and redirect onto another person. I have no idea how we managed to get the janitor but thank god we did something right in this nutfest.

At the time being we can at least be thankful for Lylo; SK has to hit for town else the mafia overruns him. Since we have a busdriver he should simply not announce his target, and we shall trust that he shoots well. because if he doesn't, oh well! :V

As for today's target, I'd go somewhere between Crilly, Creepus, and Oz. While everyone was bickering over Acio's credibility they were going after other people. Could easilly take advantage of the huting yesterday to control the vote. But thats just my opinion and probably not a good one.

let me stop you right there. i picked my "other" d1 start. i picked masterblade cause i though he would be an easy lynch. i was wrong.

You just made my day Airey. c:

Incidentally we should probably leave Airey as a potential nightkill target and not lynch kill cause that might leave us at lylo. Thats never good with a claimed SK; not sure how he would joint myself but Im sure its possible.

[Airey]

Every time he says this. ASDFGHJKL ACIO DIED FOR YOU >:O





I believe this summarizes everything in general. People say crazy shit, we lynch on crazy shit, we claim on being lynched and redirect onto another person. I have no idea how we managed to get the janitor but thank god we did something right in this nutfest.

At the time being we can at least be thankful for Lylo; SK has to hit for town else the mafia overruns him. Since we have a busdriver he should simply not announce his target, and we shall trust that he shoots well. because if he doesn't, oh well! :V

As for today's target, I'd go somewhere between Crilly, Creepus, and Oz. While everyone was bickering over Acio's credibility they were going after other people. Could easilly take advantage of the huting yesterday to control the vote. But thats just my opinion and probably not a good one.



You just made my day Airey. c:

Incidentally we should probably leave Airey as a potential nightkill target and not lynch kill cause that might leave us at lylo. Thats never good with a claimed SK; not sure how he would joint myself but Im sure its possible.

Yes lets just tell scum that i might be the nightkill target again. im sure that will work out fine

[anacreon]

Masterblade that sums up the last 2 days.

[anacreon]

ebwop: I mean today and yesterday.

[Airey]

also i thought it was a well known fact that i dont like you, why are you so happy that it made your day?

[crepuscularDissembler]

Incidentally we should probably leave Airey as a potential nightkill target and not lynch kill cause that might leave us at lylo. That's never good with a claimed SK; not sure how he would joint myself but I'm sure it's possible.

So you're saying WE SHOULD NOT LYNCH ANYONE TODAY AND LEAVE THE DECISION IN THE HANDS OF A SERIAL KILLER?
They cannot joint with town how many times do I have to say this. Ugh.

Look, I'm fine with not lynching anacreon today. I don't think it's optimal, and I'll need some convincing, but I haven't ruled it out.
What I won't accept is a no lynch when we have claimed scum, yes, serial killers are scum.
Even if for some reason you trust anacreon, his kill is still vulnerable to any fussy night powers that might screw it up. Lynches aren't.

I didn't want to harp on and on about this, but ding dang it to heck stop TRUSTING scum.

[crepuscularDissembler]

...On second thought I probably misinterpreted the (weird) grammar of that post?
Airey cannot win as a 3p unless you die to a lynch, although usually if the lyncher's target dies to a nightkill they become vanilla town. I doubt mafia will nightkill you though.
But seriously, we won't kill Airey unless we think he is mafia scum. Killing a lyncher would be foolish.

Although I have to wonder who exactly you think we should lynch? You have suspects, but no vote. If you think anacreon is that much of a threat, then vote him. If you think I'm that much of a threat, then vote me. Go on, pick one.

[Fwee]

Crep, your stuff ending up taking up most of my post so it's in spoilers. I'm trying to minimize the amount of room I take up.

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nope anacreon will either
-kill a scum member tonight if we mislynch (REMINDER: HE CAN MISS AND HIT TOWN, IN WHICH CASE GAAAAAAME OVER.)
-kill a townie if we lynch scum
it is in his BEST INTERESTS to keep the status quo of mylo so that we can't get rid of him
he CANNOT joint with you
his wincon OPPOSES yours
he is NOT your friend



p.s. Airey is currently vouching for MasterBlade's innocence so if you think he's scum then you have to also think Airey is lying
let me phrase it as a question
Fwee, do you think Airey is lying? If so, what is the truth?
there is a secondary option of TehPilot being a bastard but we'll ignore that because slander is not nice

also agreeing with Scoffles that a flavorclaim from Airey might be fun n cool

I think everyone is lying to some degree. Well, everyone except me, because I haven't lied once as of yet. Airey's claim doesn't necessarily have to be a lie, though; there's no rule against making a lyncher target a scum. On top of that, he has never said that MasterBlade is town. :/ Do I think he is lying in this particular case? To be completely honest? No. Of course, I'm the kid who licked a pole covered in ice because someone told me it tasted like lollypops. This was in sixth grade. :|
Could you elaborate on a serial killer's wincon? It appears that I am very confused by all of it. :/
Also I like making friends. It makes the game a lot more fun; but I now see that a lot of people don't LIKE me making friends. It's really quite perplexing. :/

APW, I'm sorry I was being a bitch. I've been a bit testy lately as school hasn't even started and I'm pulling out my hairs in frustration. Sometimes I stop during the day and wonder what I'm doing; it gets annoying. Also yes, I read alllllllll of your post. You helped me click into place that there is no vigilante for town. I am still considering lynching anacreon, but I'm fuzzy on the wincon. I apparently do not understand the difference between wincons, so yeah.

I have a really bad headache right now (GUESS WHO IT'S CAUSED BY? NOT MASTERBLADE FOR ONCE. YAAAAY.) so I'm going to take a break and finish evaluating everything at a later date. Excuse me while I find my advil.

[AProcrastinatingWriter]

@Fwee: Is okay. Here's something to help with the confusion.

Survivor wincon: Stay alive until the end of the game. (Me! Although it is technically not in my best interest, I have stated and sworn and bet that I am willing to work with town if they're willing to get rid of the serial killer right now because well, to be honest, I felt like it. It'll make things interesting and I'd kind of like to see town win with me and think this is the best way for them to go about it.)

Lyncher wincon: Wins if a certain someone dies to a lynch. Sometimes or maybe all the time, I haven't checked, can only do so if they are voting for them when they are lynched. (Airey's claim. Since he chose the person he wanted to kill, or at least has claimed to, there is a possibility Masterblade is scum and he is actually good for us. There is also, however, a chance Masterblade is town, and he is decidedly against us.)

Serial Killer wincon: Be the last person alive. Has a nightkill to help with his wincon. (Anacreon. He will stab everyone in the back: mafia, town, third party, everyone must die for him to win. This is not a commentary on his playstyle; this is simply what he must, sooner or later, do to win.)

I say we lynch anacreon now because 1) We'll eventually have to anyway because if we don't he'll kill us, 2) With the mafia busdriver apparently around the mafia could potentially gain an extra kill each night until said busdriver is dead, and 3) even if the busdriver isn't around or mafia isn't a good guesser, one mislynch plus one wrong stab of anacreon's knife and the game is over for town.