Grand Fishknights of Oceania (GAME OVER- Scum and Survival Third Parties WIN)

[A Killer Cuppa Tea]

Tea - You have tunnelled the crap out of Acio, who I have only seen behaving as normal Acio. I think I have read enough of his games to get this. I also really don't like how he disappeared last night after that. Thinking Tea is a lyncher?... I wouldn't see scum going directly after one person. You seem 3p to me more than anything else. A threat at least.

Dude, Acio was doing the ANGRY-CAT thing, sure, but that does not make him town. Especially when i had such a strong read on one of his targets, and his other premier target is me who i know the alignment of, you're stuck with an angrycat leading lynches on town... Which is something a scumcio could prolly do pretty easily! To be fair, i never deluded myself that id get him lynched, but i wanted to see what pressuring him/putting this anomaly in the limelight would do - and i especially wanted to continue that today after jac's flip. But eh, he's dead, i guess he was town after all. /shrug.

Why is everyone assuming that acio isnt dead btw? Its a lot likelier that he was janitored... i mean, how often do you get a false martyr anyway.


Also, roflmao @ dat scumslip from Nambato. Happy with his lynch now. Vote-but-not-really-cos-hammertime: Nambato


Finally, that post from PP is... unsatisfactory. I understand the troubles of having to study and whatnot, so i guess you are also meta-busy, so bleh. I'm willing to let you off for today, sure, cos suddenly Nambato has outed himself as scum, but maybe working slowly on a readwall, or thinking of things to say or something during the nightphase might be a helpful course of action for you? (as opposed to having to take a few hours chunk out of the middle of a day or something)

[A Killer Cuppa Tea]

Oh yea, one more thing i was gonna mention but forgot:

Mirdini being friendly does not mean that Mirdini is town. Mirdini has to be friendly as scum, otherwise people notice something is up COS HE'S ALWAYS FRIENDLY. He has figured out a way to factor in this friendliness/"towniness" into his scum play... which is what makes him such awesome scum. And is why he's only ever been lynched as scum very rarely, and even then only by cop guilties (i believe).

That said, i actually don't think he's scum this game (prepared to eat my words tho :P)

[A Killer Cuppa Tea]

omg i was just ninja'd by the attack of a killer whale or something oh no we're all going to die where dini and his panic when you need him

[Solaris]

ALSO, YES, SCHAZER HAS COME TO AVENGE THE DEATH OF HER HAT IN THE FORM OF SLAYER0

[Namboto]

Ok then, well, there's really no feasible way for me to recover from that fakeslip, town though I may be, so I might as well just claim. I'm a creepy girl with a creepy book that lets me know either who was kill visited, investigated, or docced, but not when (meaning that the results are compounding) or by who. Last night I checked investigations hoping that I'd be able to follow a cop without them having to claim, or townfirm someone without the cop having to say that they were innocent.

Last night GX, Sinjin, Tea, MV, Strawberry Ice Cream (?), and Eido were checked. I had assumed that one of the people on the tea wagon had gotten a result and didn't want to claim, but then when it switched over to me I figured that that wasn't actually happening, so I unvoted and my opinion on tea is now that he's probably towny. I understand that our investigator roles are now in a bit of a bind because they can't confirm this without claiming, so sorry about that (don't claim, btw).

Tonight I was going to do a kill visit investigation, to see if there were more attempts than results, but yeah I ain't gonna survive, am I?

anyway, I don't like ~ATH and I don't like MV. Lynch MV tomorrow plox.

(as for why I said what I did, I made some assumptions, perhaps it was GX that got NK-ed)

[Namboto]

EBWOP Ok wow that picture was larger than I thought it would be sorry guys but just look at that face

[seastormjt]

Also also just going to say that I finally have a role that does something BUT I'm completely useless night one (and not too useful after that but ohwell it'll be fun anyway).

How are you completely useless night one?

[Doofaeus]

Ok Tea that does make sense. I suppose I am a bit too trusting of the big three (Dini Sotek and Acio).

But we still don't really know what happened to Acio. Unless you know something and aren't telling (as you seem to be the one insisting he's dead?). Namboto also appears to be saying that you visited a dead person, maybe you still are a 3p killer or something.

But thank you for explaining things that at least diminishes a little bit of scumminess off of you in my books

I need to think about Namboto for a bit/tomorrow once my mind is working the better. DURP

[Doofaeus]

and yeah VERY good point Seastorm

[Schazer]

Reading reading reading, barely out of RVS and would currently put Potato Panic down a notch from neutral in light of flips, but I'm barely two pages in.

Would appreciate those "review these three players" type questions from Dini and Laset, though.

[Namboto]

How are you completely useless night one?

Simple

I lied

Also Doof I never said tea visited someone, I said that tea was visited.

[Schazer]

Actually in light of Potato+Seastorm early D1 and some things just now ok with Vote: Seastormjt; watch this get revised in a page or two probably

[Mirdini]

Do not panic. I promise that as long as we stay together and remain clam, we can overcome this beast! Nothing pacific has happened yet, so no need to be jumpy.

why would we want to overcome Acio coming back and ripping someone's face off

[Doofaeus]

Oh I did not read your ability correctly Namboto

[Mirdini]

re: Namboto okay but that role isn't even necessarily town could just as easily be a scum role to help them find investigatives.

re: Schazer3people do you want us to answer Sotek's question or make more questions

if answer sure will do once I'm done writing non-mafia things

and also once replacements have responded to it first.

[Doofaeus]

NAMBOTO:
sooo let me get this straight: You can pick between seeing who got docced, who got kill visited and who got investigated?

[Schazer]

Dindins I'm not gonna get much info out of it, do what you like in that regard - I just want some stuff of my own so I'm looking for things beyond changes in behaviour either side of N1 and its flips, things like that. If Laset had questions for the class I will get to those in due time and answer those suckers.

[Laset]

I. don't have a set of questions for everyone yet? Like I just have what I did right now. I have some scumreads, a few townreads and a bunch of afkreads.

[Namboto]

NAMBOTO:
sooo let me get this straight: You can pick between seeing who got docced, who got kill visited and who got investigated?

yes, this is correct

And dini, I wasn't really trying to prove my towniness by claiming, I was just telling you what I knew.

[Schazer]

Sinjin, what's the extent of your playing experience? Can I get this verified by someone who knows him a bit better?

[Namboto]

Sinjin, what's the extent of your playing experience? Can I get this verified by someone who knows him a bit better?

He's very new and has only been in one other game, I do believe, and that was newbfia.

[~ATH]

He's actually been around a bit longer than that. Maybe 5 games so far.

[Schazer]

Welp, here's what I've got from D1.

Notepad notetakes, disorganised as fuck

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In light of Crilly, X, Jacqs, and GX flips:

Potato at 133 was weird

Namboto gives a niceish answer to X's queries at #136
Namboto+Sinjin a thing?
Possibly just historical (#14, observe after one's flip (oh and there's being useless N1, gambit by the looks of things)
Hmm ok #367 about Sinjin then WHAM Crilly gotta nak post makes me see why every man and his tentacled davycat are so keen for this
Oh but then again follow-up on #379 says maybe not?

Having said that Crilly's hop on those votes (#36 does look pretty awful, on the other hand Potato Panic after Aci Mirdi and Laset is sort of a thing?

Oh god why is El not dead yet
Oh right that's why

Seastorm does not have daychat or scumteam is telling him to shut the hell up, more after N1
Seastorm sus ATH+Megarock, votes ATH

Megarock's reads at #164, again weird shit on seastorm (possible coalignment), definitely nuke this guy if Namby flips town today

Corrolary to all this is ludicrous newbie ratio ft. Laset As of D1 Inoxfy, Watts, Kieros (PL, Para, Scoffles, and Mutini also except replacements in short order) flew under the radar

Then again GX flip is possibly newb(?)scum Sinjin/Seastorm team which panicked

Inoxfy easy answer lazy answer #265

N1's corpse pile (8 to soft back then) had votes on Megarock (x, followed by Aci+Laset AND SEASTORM LATER GRAUGH (#194)), Crilly (Jacqs) x (inox, Crilly), seedy (GX), GX had vote from Namboto

Wateryhell goddamn @ #198

GX, 168

In response to GX's questions:
1: Who would you most like to have their role revealed right now? (No this is not me claiming oracle)
-Laset, after #192
2: Why?
-see 192, also: My experience with him is screwy at best because Meta mafia and he seems just as "into things" as X himself
3: Find 3 scumreads, no matter how unfounded (but don't just make them up.) Post them, explanation optional.
scumreads end D1, accounting for people flipping the following night:
-Potato Panic, seastormjt, Namboto (pending replacement wiiiiith someone on the D1 end Jacqs wagon. Which makes me think Laset or Watts.)
4: Thoughts on Sotek, X and Jac.
-Wondering why he hasn't been copped yet, posthumous town both, sliiiightly inclined to lynch Laset just for this selection even if it's a blinkered and inaccurate lynch choice

Conclusions after reading D1:
There's possible flying solo inexperienced scum amongst the likes of WateryHell, Potato Panic, Seastorm, and Namboto. Gut read based on questions they're asking. Will probably revise Namboto opinion (and the statement in its entirety most likely pfft) after re-reading D2.

Bigwigs Aci, Mirdi, and Laset are mostly ringing all right for me. DiniSK is a possibility based on emotional investment if that's a thing that's possible to read, but it's typical protown Dini as ever. Ludicrous Aci aggro at D1 end is also distressingly typical, I can totally see him doing that as town. Laset is the one eI have least read on because the two games we've played together that I remember well (Quarantine and Metamaf) are not really indicative of normal interactions. (He KENJI RYU'd scum me in the former, and we were a pair of self-interested third parties in the latter). He's a bitch for me to read but I'd currently say (just partly through comparison with the two other typicaleaders)he's a 45% where 50% is neutral, 100% is town.

These lurkers all these goddamn lurkers what the hell

I want Potato Panic deadest/most dead/dead most. I dunno why Seastorm's dodged scrutiny for the more recent part of this day but her face beckons my voracious maw something terrible, which is why my vote's staying there until I've read over D2.

[feralFantom]

So everything Namboto says continues to just look worse. I hope though we can get other things done today. On the offchance nam is town scum could use this to just sit back and get a free day. Even barring that, town could get lazy and this day could stagnate easily.

I kinda wish Schazer would just read all of it then post, because these retro posts are kind of weird, but hey different strokes for different folks

Also this just might be because Im horrible at doing these read- throughs, but I'm not seeing at all what the hubbub about PP is, anyone who is suspicious of them want to explain to me?

[Sinjin]

I don't think Namboto looks worse but...

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Last night GX, Sinjin, Tea, MV, Strawberry Ice Cream (?), and Eido were checked.

No announcement in my QT. So probably normal unlike Firstday.

So is the one who checked me a role/flavorcop? If so. I can understand why you are avoiding me. *Hinthint*