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    FANTROLL/FANCHARACTER CRIT THREAD 3: please read first post pretty please



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    WELCOME TO THE FANTROLL/HUMAN/BLOODSWAPPED CANON TROLL/FANALIEN CRITDOME 2012.
    What's the purpose of this thread? Simple: a collaborative effort in making fantrolls better. After all, they can be tricky things! We're here to help. Simply post your profile, and everyone else is free to critique away.

    If you want critique on your fancharacter, here's what to do. Post their description, with as much detail as you feel is appropriate, and any images you have of them that show their design so we can critique it. If you have any specific concerns, outline them so people can focus on that area in particular. For instance, "I think the spritework is shoddy but I can't figure out how to fix it"/"Is the psychic power too ridiculous?"

    IMPORTANT!!!!

    1. If you are posting a troll which cannot normally exist on Alternia, such as a LIME BLOOD, a MUTANT BLOOD, or a HUE 330 SEADWELLER, and they exist specifically for an AU roleplay setting where limebloods weren't wiped out/Feferi doesn't exist, PLEASE SPECIFY THAT THIS IS THE CASE IN YOUR POST! Otherwise, we'll just waste time pointing out that your troll can't actually exist on Alternia.

    2. Do not use a sprite generator. Don't. Don't do it. The results will look terrible. We will just tell you to make it again yourself if you post one in here.

    3. No joke characters. No ironic hot pink winged trolls. You're wasting everyone's time with things that got tired in 2010.

    GENERAL RULES FOR THIS THREAD (PLEASE READ THEM)

    1. Be polite. Criticism must be constructive. No personal attacks.

    2. Be specific. Don't say "this troll sucks"; point out what aspects need to be fixed.

    3. Be decent. It's alright to ask for clarification on why someone think a certain way about a fantroll, but don't turn it into a flame war! There are always ultimately going to be disagreements. In addition, ALL OFF TOPIC CHATTER GOES IN GENCHAT THREAD.

    4. Reciprocate. If you've had your fantroll critiqued, stick around and crit someone elses. It's only good to return the favour!

    5. Patience. Don't repeatedly nag people to crit you if you've posted and asked. Someone might get to eventually! If they don't, don't whine or harass, just politely bring it up after time has elapsed. Perhaps post it again after a four day period.

    6. THIS IS IMPORTANT. Accept criticism on your trolls. If people are telling you an aspect of your troll is flawed, ACKNOWLEDGE IT and discuss it POLITELY. If you are going to come in here and blindly defend every single aspect of your troll, why did you bother posting?

    7. Arguing against canon. This thread strives to be 100% canon compliant, with the exception of the rule "trolls can only have 12 exact blood colors", and as a result we will critique your troll if it breaks any canon rules without a good reason.

    8. Please do not post your troll's profile in a quote. You cannot requote a quote, and many of us use the "reblog and add our own annotations in red" form of critiquing, so it makes it harder for us. However, you are free to put it in a spoiler, as we can reblog those.

    9. Please don't post a profile you wrote when you were drunk/half asleep/high on painkillers/in an altered state of mind. They're always gonna be crap, man. Please make sure you're sober and well rested before you write the profile you submit to this thread.

    THINGS WHICH AREN'T RULES, BUT YOU SHOULD STILL READ :

    When giving sprite critique, please give constructive criticism but let people fix their own sprites. This is not the pimp my sprite thread. We're here to let people improve, not do their work for them.

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    With this handy dandy post, of course!!
    This is a guide I wrote up that's all about making your fantroll good. Please read it! :'D

    "That shit is way too long. Can you condense it? What are some common things to avoid?"

    Here is a list of all the things to avoid when making a fantroll! It might look a little intimidating, but trust us, it's actually really easy.


    "Are there any good rules of thumb for making a sprite or an abound portrait?"

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    Ooo, this is exciting!

    *My troll will go in this thread before it hits page 99.

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    Re: FANTROLL CRITIQUE THREAD 3: Post in this one instead!

    Ooo I guess I'll post for critique first to get this thread broken in. I'll return the favor now that I know this forum exists, ehehehe. :3

    I'm going to come off and say that I get the feeling the whole 'cop' shpeal may not make sense in Alternia. If that's the case, I'd love to hear some suggestions as to what I might change it to that is very similar--similar enough to keep his dress style the way it is. Unless that doesn't make sense either. :/ I like my criticism constructive though, so come at me brah.

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    Your name is ARAZED ALTAIR. You are a hardened officer in your overactive imagination; one worth his salt, who keeps his composure even at the worst of times. Chaos has no place here. Order is peace, and peace is perfect. Shenanigans of any kind are to be stomped out like the errant embers of an idly burning, discarded cigar. You simply don't have time for foolishness.

    While it shouldn't matter to name them now, and only does due to your queue in this critique thread, you have various INTERESTS. You are passionately devoted to the pursuit of LAW and ORDER. You also enjoy MOVIES featuring HEROES IN SPANDEX or other flamboyant means of DISGUISE, though you secretly detest VIGILANTISM. You also indulge in the art of TAXIDERMY, dealing exclusively with WINGED CREATURES, yet you would never kill one yourself. You are a self-proclaimed PACIFIST and you find your materials as they are available, dead and gone by the time you've reached them. You carry a TELESCOPIC BATON on your person at all times, prepared to deliver just beatings to all those that disturb the peace, but you end up KILLING or SEVERELY INJURING most of your victims by accident. This causes you deep periodic bouts of SHAME, as you believe you are MUCH BETTER THAN THAT.

    You are a COBALT-BLOODED noble, largely ignored by your peers due to your self-centered nature. While you do not possess PSYCHIC POWERS of any kind, you believe that you do and you fear them. According to SGRUB you're some kind of HEIR dealing in RAGE, but in all honesty you don't have time for silly games like these. While you don't discriminate based on the HEMOSPECTRUM, you are condescending to EVERYONE, regardless of their blood color. You always assume others have trouble understanding you. You try to take control of situations so you can keep the death tolls clean. You do have a tendency to confuse genders and forget names, so you tend to call people by the blood color or their trollslum initials.

    You happen to think you KNOW EVERYTHING, or that you're ALWAYS A STEP AHEAD, but you're actually THE LAST TO FIGURE THINGS OUT or the first to COMPLETELY MISS WHAT'S GOING ON. You won't admit to being wrong easily, and you believe you play it off smoothly when you get caught contradicting yourself.

    You don't have many of what human beings would consider FRIENDS, and in fact have but a single MOIRAIL to your name. She has worked with you to bring other trolls together to play a MYSTERIOUS GAME, which you fully intend to take the reigns of. That or she is playing in the same group. Honestly it depends on the situation presented to you beyond the fourth wall. Your trolltag is tenebrousTactician and you speak in a manner that is most neglectfvl of those rovnd bottomed vowels yov detest so mvch.

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    Additional info:
    Modus: Utility Belt - simple, like array, but only carries six items of any size or weight as long as they're not anchored. Weight contributes to a fatigue percentage that can hinder movement/agility.
    Lusus: Not sure. Initially it was a mutant housefly, but I wanted to go with something a little more related to a featherbeast.

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    Re: FANTROLL CRITIQUE THREAD 3: Post in this one instead!

    I'm not very good at giving critique, but i'll give it a try!
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    Re: FANTROLL CRITIQUE THREAD 3: Post in this one instead!

    I made the changes to my fantroll from the previous thread now.

    Oh, and here's my fantroll from last thread, 50 pages ago.
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    Ah! Yay. Well, I need help with my troll.


    >Be the M-
    ...Oh what the fucking hell. And who is this "pretty" young lady?

    Your name is Irinyi Vienna, a rustblood. You are a MUTANT of 7 sweeps. What's your mutant power, you ask? Is it not obvious? Sorry. You have THERMAL VISION. This means, instead of colors, you see things in stupid THERMAL COLORS. So, the hotter or cooler something is, the more RED OR GREEN OR WHATEVER THE HELL it is. This is pretty much the most fucking USELESS mutant power known to troll kind, being IT GIVES YOU NO ADVANTAGE YOU CAN THINK OF. And, to be even MORE annoying, if you don't eat for long enough, the colors start SWITCHING AROUND and everything starts looking trippy and rainbow. That makes it ESPECIALLY HARD to see anything, which is why you have this MONOCLE-LIKE goggle in your right eye. You got this from your friend ages ago, and it lets you see NORMALLY out of that one eye. It's a bit... GLITCHY.
    You are a bit SILLY. More then a BIT... you tend to say the stupidest things, and have dumb catchphrases like "HELL YES, REDBLOOD POWERS!" which you basically say ironically as YOUR POWERS WILL FOREVER SUCK. Along with this, you love to give people HIGH FIVES. It's sort of your thing. That and HUGS. You LOVE hugs. Though, most people are scared off by your freak eyes before you can ask them. Another unfortunate side effect of those things.
    Your main hobby, though? You love to SET THINGS ON FIRE. Particularly with your matches, which you buy by the dozen. You have a huge collection of them which is constantly growing and shrinking due to the fact you BURN THINGS DAILY and then BUY MORE MATCHES. You mostly burn PAPER, which consists of EMBARRASSING REDROMS YOU WRITE. As well as MATCHES, your strife specibi is a FLAMETHROWER, which is fun, but, to be honest, gives you a headache. Also, you kind of SUCK WITH IT, and usually just resolve to hiding in a corner in fear of accidentally STARTING A FIRE YOU CAN'T CONTROL..
    Your lusus is an OWL, which you call HOOTS for hell's sake. You never see it though, it's always busy eating worms or something.
    Your trolltag is phosphoricAddict and you tend to type w1th no cap1tal5 except when you are exc1ted. but alway5 per1ods. always.
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    Sprite: Its not immediatly obvious what the thing on her left eye is - maybe its explained in the profile, im not sure, Ive only read like the first line so far but Id try to make it clearer as to what that is. As for the blue eyes Id SERIOUSLY recommend you change it back to yellow.

    Profile: Why does the thermal vision have to be a mutation? Why cant it just be a regular lowblood power? Why do the colours start switching if she doesnt eat? Now I know that its supposed to be a monocle but Im pretty sure theres a base for a monocle right on the sprite sheet, so Id really suggest using that instead.

    Her personality seems to be all over the place. You go from silly to touchy feely to BURN THINGS to writing redroms (does she write them specifically to burn them? Or does she write them because she likes to write them, then gets embarrassed for writing them or something and burns them?). Im not really seeing any internal logic to her personality, just sort of a bunch of traits. Id also like to know how her quirk fits in with the rest of her. Why the 1's and 5's? (also you missed an s on "per1ods")

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    I'm not very good at this, but I think I'll try a critique. My comments are in red. Expect less critique and more questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by cautiousValidity View Post
    Ah! Yay. Well, I need help with my troll.

    Basically, she's pretty good. Most of my critique is just asking for clarification. I think you really need some coherency in her personality. Especially in regards to complaining and setting things on fire. The complaining kind of ruins her for me, 'cause it doesn't really seem to fit with her silliness.

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    Alrighty, I made the profile for one of my main trolls, Xulark. Anyone got any pointers? I'm mostly asking for you guys to point out redundancies and repetitions that aren't needed. Some other pointers are welcome obviously like should I mention his lusus/relationship with it more?

    Spoiler'd for largeness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cautiousValidity View Post
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    I appreciate some of the things you've done here. You know the formula and you followed it, but you didn't show your work and that is where you lose people.

    I see that her sign is phosphorus so you've decided to go with themes of fire > heat > passion. Her heat vision is obvious, but I haven't found the reason that the colors swap when she is hungry. Does it have to do with the way burnable fuels are consumed and the output of flame color?

    Then you have some general silliness and volatility which relates to the themes you have picked. Writing silly redroms fulfils the passion requirement for the theme. She has this incredibly worrying match bulimia and arson addiction and to keep on formula she has a weapon she's shitty at controlling.

    She types with 1 and 5 because the atomic number of phosphorus is 15.

    Not bad, kiddo. But it has detractions in it that keep people from getting the message. Change the eyes, go ahead and make that a power instead of a mutation. I understand you want to classify it as a mutation because as a power that isn't actually powerful you don't want to list it as something that conveys an advantage - but it is better to keep things simple. Don't make her complain about herself too much when it concerns the choices that she makes, that's shorthand for you not having a thought process. You have a good skeleton, streamline the muscle on it.
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    Alright. Critique in red.

    Quote Originally Posted by probableWizardry View Post
    Alrighty, I made the profile for one of my main trolls, Xulark. Anyone got any pointers? I'm mostly asking for you guys to point out redundancies and repetitions that aren't needed. Some other pointers are welcome obviously like should I mention his lusus/relationship with it more?

    Spoiler'd for largeness.
    Summary: The profile is, in general, poorly written in that it lacks focus, has poor organization and flow, and contains a lot of information we don't really need to know. Even with all you've written, I don't have a very good sense of this guy's personality or character. The most I really get is that he's a jerk who probably likes to give people unsolicited advice. And he likes keys. Oh, yes, does he like keys. I got the point. Speaking of that, I think you really drive that into the ground. Though I haven't played the series, I'm guessing some of this stuff is related to Kingdom Hearts. Let's talk about the keys. So, he's got a keyblade weapon, his fetch modus is key related, he plays an instrument with keys, and even his symbol is a key. Why is his symbol a key? Isn't that a little much? I believe a troll's symbol should say something about their character or nature, but all I'd get out of yours is that he likes keys. You never even say why. You don't really say why he likes anything, except the keyboard, but that's related to the keys which we don't know about.

    You need to cut out the psychic power, because a teal blood shouldn't have one, and this power isn't even psychic. Cut out the information that doesn't actually tell us anything about the guy, and go more into his personality, traits, and nature. Please note that I said to cut before you add. This profile would benefit a lot from being shorter and more concise. You spend a lot of words on in-profile comments, and while a few are fine, overdoing it becomes tiresome to read.
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    You are Armena Nitrix. Your try to act like a PERFECT HUNTRESS, but some times you let things get really out of hand with bigger prey, you have also tended to fall when running on the ground, but never in the trees.

    Your CAVE is littered with your glory from all the things you have to kull and when there is a trade show in the city not even with your lucis can you bring all of the things you need to sell.

    your color on the hemospectrum is just slightly a jade green.. but you have never cared much for tending to the mother grubs but you have been sent out once to protect the mother grubs while they lay there eggs. you have a nice cresent shaped moon bow and arrow for your SYMBOL and you happen to love the rare times when both the moons are cresent shaped and you will refuse to go inside the cave with your lucis. on a less draged out note you have recently turned TEN SWEEPS. and your ok with that you have a lot more sweeps to go you hope. you are a verry excited huntress and will often pounce on any passing troll holding a knife to there neck.

    your specibus is a BOW though you sometimes tuck a knife in your waise band when you go hunting.

    you have a GIANT HOWLBEAST lucis who for what ever is his reason has been bring random trolls to your have and been trying to mate with any wild luci big enough

    your trolltag is godlikeArrows and "you speak and a(t like a huntress, and sometimes you get (arried away with your hoOoOowls!"

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    Sprite: Her left horn is a little strange I assume its supposed to look like its poking through her hair but right now it just kinda looks like it was broken off. Id suggest keeping the full horn there and having the hair move around it - sort of like the horn is one big hair clip or something. The face is also far too much to the left so scooch that over. The mouth needs the be raised, as well, and the eyes probably need to be scooted down 2 or 3 pixels. he body of her sprite... looks like it was enlarged or something. Im not sure how to fix that short of getting a body from the sprite sheet and respriting it. Id also make the background transparent, if you can. Programs like photoshop, GIMP or paint.net allow you to do this.

    Profile: The second sentance is a bit of a run on. The wording is also a bit strange - saying she lets things get out of hand makes it sound like she sees it happening and has the power to change it but doesnt. Also why does she fall on the ground but not in the trees? Tree hopping is quite a bit harder then running as it takes precision, coordination, balance and good depth perception - not to mention some branches arent as strong as others and landing on a weaker one can cause you to wobble and fall, or the branch might even break!

    Kull should be spelled cull, lucis should be spelled Lusus. Also thats much more of a forest green then a jade green. I honestly cant say anything about the mother grub thing at this moment so heres hoping someone else can throw in an opinion on that. Dragged*. If shes ten sweeps her eyes would probably be starting to fill with colour and I think thats about fleet-aged. " and You're ok with that, you hope you have a lot more sweeps to go you hope."

    If shes running around pouncing on random trolls and threatening them with a knife, why hasnt she been killed yet? I cant imagine every single troll who gets pounced just owning up to their fate then and there. Id scrap that all together. Waist*.

    "You have a GIANT HOWLBEAST lusus who - for whatever reason - has been bringing random trolls to your hive and has been trying to mate with any wild lusus big enough."

    I corrected that sentence but... it is still a little weird. You throw it in and dont explain why her lusus is doing that - even if she doesnt know, we would like to. Im sure trolls dont appreciate being kidnapped by a giant wolf lusus and might actually kill her for doing this. Speaking of her - your trolls lusus should always be the gender of the troll they're looking after, so it cant be a he.

    We dont see anything about her personality at all. We know she tries to be a good hunter and her lusus is a wolf. Thats about it. Id work on expanding on a few things and adding in some personality traits.
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    Hi there. It looks like English may not be your primary language? You may want to have a friend look this over because there are numerous typos, misspellings, and other mistakes you'll want to have fixed. I'm just mentioning this because I'm going to try and focus on the profile's content and not the technical aspects as much. Comments are in red under spoilers.

    Quote Originally Posted by GodlikeArrows View Post
    I see that canidaeVulpecula has corrected a few of your sentences, but really, almost any word that can be misspelled has been misspelled. You should either go over this very carefully or get someone to help you with that. Besides that, there are a lot of content issues and, when it comes right down to it, there's not a lot here. I can tell that this troll is a skilled huntress but nothing beyond that. I don't know what hobbies she has, what she likes to do when she's not hunting, whether she's friendly, aggressive, mean, sweet, petty, or whatever. You need to tell us more about her as a character and as a person.
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    Thank you guys for the critique. I'll try this again


    >Be the Pyromaniac

    Your name is Irinyi Vienna, a rustblood. You are a troll of only 7 sweeps, a younger one. You have THERMAL VISION. This means, instead of normal colors, you see things in THERMAL COLORS. So, the hotter or cooler something is, the more red, green or such something is.. This is pretty much the most USELESS power known to troll kind, BUT IT'S STILL PRETTY DAMN AWESOME. And, to be even MORE awesome, you can control it. Well, partially control it. You have to concentrate a lot to see in REGULAR COLORS, and even sometimes then it doesn't always work as perfect as you'd like, but you know, don't kick a gift horse in the mouth!
    You are a bit SILLY. More then a BIT... you tend to say the stupidest things, and have dumb catchphrases like "HELL YES, REDBLOOD POWERS!" which you basically you basically whenever you have the chance. Even so, you tend to be OVERLY PASSIONATE about everything you do, which can annoy some people. You don't really care though - you love what you do, and if they don't like it too, it's their fault!
    Your main hobby, though? You love to SET THINGS ON FIRE. Particularly with your matches, which you buy by the dozen. You have a huge collection of them which is constantly growing and shrinking due to the fact you BURN THINGS DAILY and then BUY MORE MATCHES. You mostly burn PAPER, which consists of EMBARRASSING REDROMS YOU WRITE, as you LOVE RED ROMANCE. Unfortunately, your stories write, so you take a knack to BURN THE DIRECTLY AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN WROTE. As well as MATCHES, your strife specibi is a FLAMETHROWER, which is fun, but, to be honest, gives you a headache. Also, you kind of SUCK WITH USING IT, as the colors sort of DISTRACT YOU, and usually just resolve to hiding in a corner in fear of accidentally STARTING A FIRE YOU CAN'T CONTROL. You are fine with regular fires, but if you can't control it... WELL, THAT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA
    Your lusus is an OWL, which you call HOOTS for hell's sake. You never see it though, it's always busy eating worms or something.
    Your trolltag is phosphoricAddict and you tend to type w1th no cap1tal5 except when you are exc1ted. but alway5 per1ods. always.
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    Re: FANTROLL CRITIQUE THREAD 3: Post in this one instead!

    I'd like to put this in for sprite and profile critique:



    Your name is Hannie Baalie, a seven sweep old seadweller exiled from the ocean and currently forswearing hemotyping.

    You are a BOLD uncompromising troll who would prefer to TRAMPLE problems underfoot. You feel nothing is truly earned unless TAKEN by force, preferably from the cold dead hands of your enemies while you hear the LAMENTATIONS of those who cherished them. You are also a PROUD haughty troll, never forgetting your true blood. These are not CONVENIENT traits for someone taking anonymity, and you have often struggled with holding your NATURE in when faced with opposition. You have an excellent MEMORY though, and never forget those who wronged you or friends who helped you. You disdain those who hold high positions while doing little to hold onto them.

    You sometimes, if pressed or caught, claim to be going anonymous to get a FRANK and HONEST view of life outside of royalty and perform SECRET TESTS OF CHARACTER. While this has some element of truth to it, your HAND was actually forced somewhat. When you were younger you went around saying you had a claim on imperial throne as a descendant of an ancient EMPRESS, with just an old ivory crown and some MYTHICAL stories as proof. Well it was fun to pretend... until assassins came after you and friends turned against you. That's how you became disguised and EXILED on the land.

    To become stronger and HARDER you often push your body to its limits. You are slowly becoming an ASCETIC, giving up worldly pleasures and restricting your food intake, even as you sell your remaining heirlooms. Suffering brings greatness, and you see your exile in this light. However you will not give up your birthright and that old stained crown that represents it: One day when you are completely self reliant and able to take on all challengers you will reclaim it. And if you get proof that you really are an HEIRESS you would be expected to challenge the reigning empress one day. You must BE PREPARED.

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    You are Armena Nitrix. Your try to act like a PERFECT HUNTRESS, and many trolls that ask for your hand in a fight, well you end up in dealing with an angry lusus later.

    You have tried your best at being a calmer troll but in all truth that will never happen. You as well as a buddy of yours cull murderous lusii for a group of bluebloods that are too bothered by them entering the city and causing them to be woken in the middle of the day. You have no wish to go in to the fleet or even the city and are fairly happy you have a year before you have to leave your cave.

    You hive is located fairly close to a dam that enters the city where your moirail Calder lives. You have sometimes helped him feed his lusus due to your abundance of kills at the end of the day and having a lusus the size of a mewbeast {artic fox size but she is a wolf I have yet to come up with a name for her}

    Your are fascinated with anything crescent shaped, so you happen to have a lot of claws, talons and teeth from the savage or wild lusii you cull. And whenever one of the moons gets crescent shaped you refuse to stay inside no matter what the weather is.

    At some point in time you had found your lusus holding a leather bound book about to use the poor piece of literature as a chew toy snatching it from her who looked threw you found it was a journal of a long passed olive blood hunter who was left on planets that were once very war driven to keep reassurance to the empress that that planet would stay under her command. It even went in to detail of how he did this. And how he was rewarded by getting to meet the empress and when he died he was taken back to Alternia and laid to rest on home soil. That’s you idol, that’s who you want to be. * the troll being described in this is not her ancestor her ancestor plays a much less important part in this and is only her idols kismises who died an unfair death being culled by a boar*

    Your troll tag is godlikeArrows and “you speak and a(t like a huntress, and sometimes you get (arried away with your hoOoOowls!”
    i scratched everything from befor and redid her.

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    Ok, this profile is ROUGH. Like, REALLY REALLY ROUGH. Please don't judge me by it, it's the first draft of a profile that I'm writing for a troll that I'm only just starting to understand. Still, I could use some help with it. Like, a LOT of help. I need people to pick apart the problems with this troll, tell me what needs to be cut, what needs to be added, etc. and so forth. I will be eternally grateful to anyone who does so and will probably even bake you a cake (nope).



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    @ CraftyJongleur

    First things first, that is a nice sprite! I think his hairline needs to be a little lower, that's a bit much forehead, but looks pretty good otherwise.

    Okay, you have a diamond in the rough here. This could be a very good troll, but a few things could be changed. Everyone stand back, I'm gonna use some words here.
    I noticed you mention a lot of stuff about sadomasochism. In my opinion, I don't really think mentioning anything sexual in a profile like this is necessary. It's just not subtle at all and doesn't fit with the tone. I find it hard to take it seriously, so leaving it out might be cool.
    The whole violent personality thing could be done over, too. I think it would work much better if his "thing" was cannibalism. He could keep the maze and the lusus ('Cause that was a great idea) and have a bunch of bonus guilt over trapping innocent people and eating them. You could keep the tense relationship between him and his lusus, especially if his lusus encourages the behaviour. He would feel obliged to listen to a parental figure but at the same time struggles with his personal morals.

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    @GodlikeArrows: Comments in red.

    I am often on Pesterchum with one of my trolls. Don't be afraid to troll them. (Tags are in spoiler.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by finepoint View Post
    @ CraftyJongleur

    First things first, that is a nice sprite! I think his hairline needs to be a little lower, that's a bit much forehead, but looks pretty good otherwise.

    Okay, you have a diamond in the rough here. This could be a very good troll, but a few things could be changed. Everyone stand back, I'm gonna use some words here.
    I noticed you mention a lot of stuff about sadomasochism. In my opinion, I don't really think mentioning anything sexual in a profile like this is necessary. It's just not subtle at all and doesn't fit with the tone. I find it hard to take it seriously, so leaving it out might be cool.
    The whole violent personality thing could be done over, too. I think it would work much better if his "thing" was cannibalism. He could keep the maze and the lusus ('Cause that was a great idea) and have a bunch of bonus guilt over trapping innocent people and eating them. You could keep the tense relationship between him and his lusus, especially if his lusus encourages the behaviour. He would feel obliged to listen to a parental figure but at the same time struggles with his personal morals.
    Thank you for your input! The sadism thing is an important pillar of the character, and isn't going to be changed, but I think you're misunderstanding it? The sadism is never explicitly said to be a sexual thing, and for good reason- this troll will eventually destined for the cafe, and such a thing would have no business in there.
    "Sadism" here means that the guy likes to cause pain, pure and simple. Nothing innately sexual about it, and certainly no more so than what Equius has.

    EDIT: After further examination of the profile, I've seen that there ARE a few points that are a bit too blatantly sexual, small things that passed under my radar, which I will remove, yes.
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    Okay, I may have cut out more than needed, but here it is currently.



    Anyway, I cut out the unneeded stuff. Any pointers on what to add now, or rather where to weave in personality traits?
    I want to fix that issue before going into philosophy and the other things.
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    Updated the profile to be more forum friendly, trimmed out all of they overly blatant parts. Still needs a lot of work, so further critique would be greatly appreciated. EDIT: Have also expanded to add more detail about personality and hobbies.



    Your name is PRABHU SERKAN. You are 8.5 sweeps old and you are a BLUE BLOOD. You are quite proud of this fact, as being a blue blood means you have POWER over most other trolls- you would certainly hate for it to be the other way around.

    Your villa-esque hive sits in the middle of a large HEDGE MAZE, which you had installed at the behest of your MINOTAUR LUSUS. Like any good minotaur, he feels most at home in the depths of a massive labyrith, and he has taught you to do the same. Specifically, he taught you to lure unsuspecting LOWBLOODS into the maze, get them completely and totally lost, and then trap them at a dead end and beat them to a pulp. You quickly became enchanted by the thrill of harming other trolls and spilling their blood. The feeling of having that much power over another troll was intense.

    But there was one thing that your lusus did not realize, something that it did not expect; as much as you enjoyed causing pain to other trolls, you always hated the way they FEARED you, the way they'd RUN away after you were done. You wanted to cause pain, but you didn't want to upset the other troll- a conflict you had trouble justifying to yourself. In the end, you realized that because you hated how your lusus forced you into being "the perfect little HIGHBLOOD", you were not okay with forcing another to go through something they didn't want to. Your lusus may have made you enjoy inflicting PAIN on others, but PARADOXICALLY, he could not make you like their SUFFERING. Because of this, you've developed a love/hate relationship with your lusus, loving the ways he's taught you to exert your power over others, but hating the fact that he's forced you to do so.

    Your conflicting interests have left you as a SERIAL DITHERER- it is very hard for you to make any sort of important decision, as you're constantly tugged in two different directions. This makes it difficult for you to be as DOMINANT as you wish to be, as a truly dominant troll would know exactly what they want and take it- whereas you have no idea what you really want or how to get it. You have a tough time making up your mind about ANYTHING at all, preferring to ACT as the strong leader, but bully others into making decisions for you. No decision is ever good enough for you- in fact, nothing is ever good enough. You are a PERFECTIONIST, and are constantly changing your mind, redoing things, and starting over, because no decision is ever perfectt enough.

    Still, you enjoy a good LAUGH, especially at others' expense, and have never gotten out of the habit of tricking other trolls into getting hurt- even if you do always feel a pang of SELF LOATHING when you do it, your SHAUDENFREUDE usually wins out. PRANKS and PRACTICAL JOKES are a specialty of yours. Your fun can often get out of hand, however, so you practice MEDITATION and practicing MARTIAL ARTS to calm yourself down. You have had to become very disciplined in order to keep yourself form hurting too many trolls. You also spend a lot of your time designing complex TRAPS and LURES to help catch new victims. Starting with simple SNARES you have since moved on to more complex and elaborate mechanisms, which you design and construct yourself. You can be quite HANDY with a set of tools.

    You can be a bit of a SNOB about your blood status, boasting, strutting around, and lording it over others, but in truth you are a bit INSECURE. Because of your aversion to forcing trolls to do things against their will, you feel like a FRAUD, and so you overly play up your CONFIDENCE and HAUGHTINESS to seem more dominant than you actually are.

    However, to people you get close to, you can be very SWEET. In the end, your desire to be dominant, to control, to be POWERFUL, stems from a desire to PROTECT the things you care about. So many trolls fear you and run from you, and very few pity you. In truth, you are a HOPELESS ROMANTIC, just desperate for someone who won't run away from your peculiarities, and when you find someone, you will hold them close and never let them go. You are a bit of a FLIRT because of this, as you actively shmooze around with trolls, searching for your SPECIAL SOMEONE.

    You wield the STRIFE SPECIBUS of catlprodkind, which you chose as they ultimate pain inflicter- no true PRACTICAL APPLICATION beyond burning into the flesh of other trolls. The fact that it is technically not a WEAPON belies one of your major WEAKNESSES: you aren't much good at FIGHTING, preferring to prey on trapped and vulnerable trolls rather than facing armed trolls one on one.

    Your troll tag is reluctantSavage and you Pretty much Always capItAlIze certAIN letters from your favorite word, PAIN
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraftyJongleur View Post
    Updated the profile to be more forum friendly, trimmed out all of they overly blatant parts. Still needs a lot of work, so further critique would be greatly appreciated.



    Your name is PRABHU SERKAN. You are 8.5 sweeps old and you are a BLUE BLOOD. You are quite proud of this fact, as being a blue blood means you have POWER over most other trolls- you would certainly hate for it to be the other way around.

    Your villa-esque hive sits in the middle of a large HEDGE MAZE, which you had installed at the behest of your MINOTAUR LUSUS. Like any good minotaur, he feels most at home in the depths of a massive labyrith, and he has taught you to do the same. Specifically, he taught you to lure unsuspecting LOWBLOODS into the maze, get them completely and totally lost, and then trap them at a dead end and beat them to a pulp. You quickly became enchanted by the thrill of harming other trolls and spilling their blood. The feeling of having that much power over another troll was intense.

    But there was one thing that your lusus did not realize, something that it did not expect; as much as you enjoyed causing pain to other trolls, you always hated the way they FEARED you, the way they'd RUN away after you were done. You wanted to cause pain, but you didn't want to upset the other troll- a conflict you had trouble justifying to yourself. In the end, you realized that because you hated how your lusus forced you into being "the perfect little HIGHBLOOD", you were not okay with forcing another to go through something they didn't want to. Your lusus may have made you enjoy inflicting PAIN on others, but PARADOXICALLY, he could not make you like their SUFFERING. Because of this, you've developed a love/hate relationship with your lusus, loving the ways he's taught you to exert your power over others, but hating the fact that he's forced you to do so.

    Your conflicting interests have left you as a SERIAL DITHERER- it is very hard for you to make any sort of important decision, as you're constantly tugged in two different directions. This makes it difficult for you to be as DOMINANT as you wish to be, as a truly dominant troll would know exactly what they want and take it- whereas you have no idea what you really want or how to get it.

    Still, you enjoy a good LAUGH, especially at others' expense, and have never gotten out of the habit of tricking other trolls into getting hurt- even if you do always feel a pang of SELF LOATHING when you do it, your SHAUDENFREUDE usually wins out. PRANKS and PRACTICAL JOKES are a specialty of yours.

    You wield the STRIFE SPECIBUS of catlprodkind, which you chose as they ultimate pain inflicter- no true PRACTICAL APPLICATION beyond burning into the flesh of other trolls. The fact that it is technically not a WEAPON belies one of your major WEAKNESSES: you aren't much good at FIGHTING, preferring to prey on trapped and vulnerable trolls rather than facing armed trolls one on one.

    Your troll tag is reluctantSavage and you Pretty much Always capItAlIze certAIN letters from your favorite word, PAIN
    Don't have time to crit too deeply, but his horns are outlined and on regular sprites they shouldn't be. Looks weird!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kendov
    > Be the tarblooded asshole

    You are now the tarblooded asshole.

    Your name is KENDOV VEDSOS. You are SEVEN SWEEPS old. You are BLIND in your RIGHT EYE.

    You have a number of INTERESTS. The most potent of them is FIRE. You love FIRE so much that you often burn objects lying around your hive for fun. You also have a passion for SHARP OBJECTS. As much so that there is a number of various SHARP OBJECTS embedded in your walls at all times. You also hate HIGHBLOODS. You hate them so much because of your BLOOD COLOR. You have BLACK BLOOD, the lowest of the mutant blood. You dream of being ACCEPTED into troll society, but that will never happen because if they saw your blood color you know you would be instantly shunned. It was somewhat of a miracle to have survived the grub stage without being culled. The only reason is likely because you had a lusus specially bred for you. Your QUADRANTS are generally empty, besides MOIRALLEGIANCE. You had a MATESPRIT at a time but you lit her on FIRE because she scolded you for lighting too many things on FIRE.

    Also relevant to FIRE is your special powers. You can naturally CREATE AND CONTROL FIRE and are also IMMUNE TO HEAT. You have the title of KNIGHT OF RAGE and your STRIFE SPECIBI is aligned with BLADEKIND. You type in DARK RED to hide your blood color, and also type with no normal capitals and punctuation but capitalize every F. Your CHUMHANDLE is milesIram and your planet is the LAND OF FIRE AND WRATH. Your FETCH MODUS is ARRAY because you don't have time for fucking around with all the BULLSHIT other kinds provide you with.
    I'm getting people say he's overpowered. I see why and can agree with that. But what I want to know is..

    Is there any way to have him retain the flame creation and heat immunity but still be balanced? What I've come up with is that the flames take an incredible amount of energy to produce and sustain, and holding large fires for too long will basically deplete him of any energy. What else?
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