Nuclear Radiation at Extreme high in Indiana/Michigan

[Theswweet]

Well, ****.

Hope you guys out there don't get hurt - it looks like the ol' US of A is trying to cover it up.

"Digital Journal (http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/326186) reported earlier today that near the Indiana & Michigan borders Geiger detectors from the EPA & Black Cat were showing insanely elevated radiation levels. They quickly changed their story fundamentally. I personally conversed with the NRC today as well as the Hazmat response Captain for the Indiana State Police.
Here is a quick pic, before it was redacted / "corrected". Notice it is NOT the EPA's RadNet open-air detector in Fort Wayne, but another privately run detector near South Bend, owned by Radiation Network:
RadiationNetwork (http://i.imgur.com/cNmGX.jpg)

They then "made a correction (http://www.radiationnetwork.com/Message.htm) " and called it a false alarm, claiming that their "false alarm" was also the same cause for Black Cat… but what about the EPA's federal detectors, the ones that don't use the same information streams as RadiationNetwork? Read on:
EPA's "near-realtime" open-air geiger counter for Ft Wayne Indiana no longer shows live data but cuts off May 19th (http://www.epa.gov/radnet/radnet-dat...twayne-bg.html) . This morning, it didn't, but by using the EPA.gov RADNET query tool, WE CAN STILL PULL THE DATA UP as in this screenshot (http://i.imgur.com/KVEqg.png)"

[aPawnAscending]

How many sensors are involved? Sounds like only the one that's faulty. Honestly, just one anomalous reading points to a broken sensor instead of a calamity.

[Theswweet]

How many sensors are involved? Sounds like only the one that's faulty. Honestly, just one anomalous reading points to a broken sensor instead of a calamity.

Read the quote again...

"Digital Journal (http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/326186) reported earlier today that near the Indiana & Michigan borders Geiger detectors from the EPA & Black Cat were showing insanely elevated radiation levels. They quickly changed their story fundamentally. I personally conversed with the NRC today as well as the Hazmat response Captain for the Indiana State Police.
Here is a quick pic, before it was redacted / "corrected". Notice it is NOT the EPA's RadNet open-air detector in Fort Wayne, but another privately run detector near South Bend, owned by Radiation Network:
RadiationNetwork (http://i.imgur.com/cNmGX.jpg)

They then "made a correction (http://www.radiationnetwork.com/Message.htm) " and called it a false alarm, claiming that their "false alarm" was also the same cause for Black Cat… but what about the EPA's federal detectors, the ones that don't use the same information streams as RadiationNetwork? Read on:
EPA's "near-realtime" open-air geiger counter for Ft Wayne Indiana no longer shows live data but cuts off May 19th (http://www.epa.gov/radnet/radnet-dat...twayne-bg.html) . This morning, it didn't, but by using the EPA.gov RADNET query tool, WE CAN STILL PULL THE DATA UP as in this screenshot (http://i.imgur.com/KVEqg.png)"

2 separate mainframes caught it. Its a cover-up.

[Graknorke]

I really fail to see why they would cover up something if ti really were important.
Sure, revealed safety standards look bad, but having people contract deadly ailments later looks worse. Even politicians aren't THAT stupid.

As well as that, the radiation looks to be unusually high around that one sensor, you'd expect the ones nearby to also be high, dropping off as it got further away.

[Jolts]

It might just be because I live somewhat around where this is happening that I don't want to believe it, but I'm a little skeptical. The first sensor that caught it has been historically faulty and for the second one, it is a little weird that the readings cut off but the screencap you have could have been edited. You don't know if it's really true unless it comes directly from the source.

Besides, if this is a coverup then what exactly does the government have to gain?

[Drillgorg]

Seems pretty flimsy to me. The only "source" that corroborates that broken sensor is from a network that is conveniently down right now, except for this one specific way of doing it. I simply don't believe the screenshot form the EPA is legitimate.

[aPawnAscending]

They can't cover up stuff like this. We all learned this through Chernobyl. Radiation monitors in Europe were able to pick it up (they were also able to trace it back to the source due to the exact mixture of isotopes found in the contamination). Same concept here. You CANT hide a radiological disaster and I'd sure hope they wouldn't be dumb enough to attempt it.

That site also has a whole slue of false alerts that it reports and gives reasons for. Granted this current one in Indiana has an unknown fault, but give it a day or so for them to identify the problem.

OR if you really want to be the conspiracy theorists, track down what nuclear power plants those are in Illinois. Find out any news about them. Also view a weather report and see which way the weather is flowing. Though a power plant disaster would likely be all over the news and everything, and would be entirely unlikely anyway. You'll probably find nothing to suggest anything has happened.

[Theswweet]

They can't cover up stuff like this. We all learned this through Chernobyl. Radiation monitors in Europe were able to pick it up (they were also able to trace it back to the source due to the exact mixture of isotopes found in the contamination). Same concept here. You CANT hide a radiological disaster and I'd sure hope they wouldn't be dumb enough to attempt it.

That site also has a whole slue of false alerts that it reports and gives reasons for. Granted this current one in Indiana has an unknown fault, but give it a day or so for them to identify the problem.

OR if you really want to be the conspiracy theorists, track down what nuclear power plants those are in Illinois. Find out any news about them. Also view a weather report and see which way the weather is flowing. Though a power plant disaster would likely be all over the news and everything, and would be entirely unlikely anyway. You'll probably find nothing to suggest anything has happened.

Proof is in the weather...

http://weather.cod.edu/cgi-bin/radar...&loopdir=brefs

[Theswweet]

They can't cover up stuff like this. We all learned this through Chernobyl. Radiation monitors in Europe were able to pick it up (they were also able to trace it back to the source due to the exact mixture of isotopes found in the contamination). Same concept here. You CANT hide a radiological disaster and I'd sure hope they wouldn't be dumb enough to attempt it.

That site also has a whole slue of false alerts that it reports and gives reasons for. Granted this current one in Indiana has an unknown fault, but give it a day or so for them to identify the problem.

OR if you really want to be the conspiracy theorists, track down what nuclear power plants those are in Illinois. Find out any news about them. Also view a weather report and see which way the weather is flowing. Though a power plant disaster would likely be all over the news and everything, and would be entirely unlikely anyway. You'll probably find nothing to suggest anything has happened.

Proof is in the weather...

http://weather.cod.edu/cgi-bin/radar...&loopdir=brefs

[Drillgorg]

Sorry, but I'm not willing to believe it until I see it hit the news. If it's real and credible, it will get out. And if it is real but manages to get covered up, then no harm done (because it would hit the news if harm was done).

[aPawnAscending]

Proof is in the weather...

http://weather.cod.edu/cgi-bin/radar...&loopdir=brefs

I don't understand what I'm looking at to be honest.

[Theswweet]

Base reflectivity scan from a local college there shows abnormal radiation (The red, orange, and purple).

Its enough to show SOMETHING is up there.

[Drillgorg]

Wrong, sorry. Go to this page and check their different stations. Most of them look like that. The weather station can probably only show data from a certain distance away.

[Kíeros]

First off, yes, weather radars always have snow at the location around them. It is noise, and should be ignored. That's why most good radar systems use multiple radars, so as to get accurate readings near where they are located.
Secondly, the Fort Wayne readings are still/back live. The graph is cyclic, but is not the supposed 7000 or so. All other nearby ones have the same pattern with no obnoxiously large spike. I really bet false alarm, given that this counter went above 100 significantly four times in the past week.

[P_equals_NP]

The graph is cyclic,

So disappointed this wasn't the kind of graph i thought it was.

[kholhaus]

If this is real, god help those of you out there.

If this is false, Well, it's false.

Time to sit back and wait for valid proof to be presented.

[Drillgorg]

Oh it's false, that has been well established.

[Cinderthief]

I think they - and by extent, you - are just reading too much into a bunch of innocent mistakes.

it's probably just dr. manhattan picking up his car keys.

... but if he is an omnipotent super-being, how could he forget them?

also, he doesn't drive?

oh fuck, it's a conspiracy.

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