Actually, I think the origins of the weapons are pretty clear, unless I'm oversimplifying it. The pre-scratch kids are on their way to the post-scratch session. Once there, at some point, Jade will deposit all those weapons, which are either on the kids' persons or on the meteor, into the lotus, which she will then set, delivering them to Jake, her pen pal. What's really cool about the whole thing is the Zillyhoo has no starting point (unless it's Gamzee) and is in fact a weapon that originates in paradox if I am correct.
Liv>John>Lotus>Jake>Liv and then start back at the beginning.
Doop de boop. I don't really have anything clever to say.
I wonder what will be in the Lotus that will get out after Jake's entering but before Earth gets flooded.
If we can go by the last Lotus it'll probably be Jack though. :<
EDIT: I think it would be most logical if Gamzee's Warhammer of Zillyhoo ends up in the Lotus Flower. Thus John's Warhammer was Gamzee's, but in the future.
Damn, this secret project I'm doing is taking long. I'm planning to post it by my 10.000th post, which according to my calculations should be somewhere end of July, beginning of August 2013 (I have 5150 posts at this point, but I have already been going for 3 months or so)
Theories
Liv Tyler's whole journey will be shown in a flash called [S] Terry: Fast forward to Liv while a fast version of "How Do I" plays. Semi-confirmed.
While Caliborn is talking to this person at the other side of the terminal, this person at one point says: “Hey. Caliborn. Don’t turn your back on the body.”
Caliborn turns around and notices Gamzee’s body is gone.
honk
And so it begins again. Semi-confirmed.
GCat just teleported Roxy to the Condesce.Confirmed
Calliope and uu are living on B2 Earth, or maybe a doomed timeline version of it where the Red Miles didn't reach it (yet).
uu will write the LE code to make himself immortal.
A Frog Temple for Calliope and uu is somewhere in the Trolls' meteor somehow.
Gamzee went into hiding so he could protect the corpses of the Trolls of being destroyed so he could prototype them in B2.
GCat is Calliope's jUjU, in case the Cherubs are living on B2 Earth, late into the future. It would make a bit of sense, since First Guardians have Lime coloured features (teleportation powers, tongue, etc.) which Calliope has as blood colour. Also, Calliope is a Hero of Space and Heroes of Space usually have connections to their First Guardian.
B2 Earth is not going to get destroyed by the Red Miles since the Condesce, GCat, Lil Cal and Lil Seb are still there.
Dad will find Jane's body on Derse and a callback is made to Grandpa Harley finding Dream Jane's body. Not knowing how to escape, Dad panics. But then, B2 Jade comes flying along on a ship and offers him a ride and he gets shipped somewhere. Perhaps shipped with someone else. Perhaps he gets shipped with B2 Rose.
Gamzee probably just alchemized the Warhammer, and so did John. Well, it kinda has an origin, but not...in this particular universe...
Folders and sigquotes below. Warning: This may cause brain damage.
Stormspirit: Witch of Heart, Thief of Fun, Queen of Awesome, Witch of Art and proud member of the Horrorterror Hug Squad Folders Dani is the coolest but MW is much cooler Facepalm Compendium
Sigquotes
Originally Posted by ArmsAreLoud
I think between rape face Bonnie and cam whore KanRose we've got the hilariously awkward covered.
Originally Posted by ArmsAreLoud
Yeah I was kinda surprised by that.
Like
Wait I can see tits
I CAN SEE TITS
DD officially has the best reading material, hands down.
aha
xqz, add Team FSU (w/ Pirate Ship) to the list!
the same logic I used to establish that the emissary might be in the capsule could also be used for the pir8 ship from the dreambubbles (proximity to Furthest Ring)
huh
Originally Posted by Stormspirit
Gamzee probably just alchemized the Warhammer, and so did John. Well, it kinda has an origin, but not...in this particular universe...
they could alchemize another one when building up the pile of weapons to put in the capsule
I'm quite sure that someone has a zillion grist somewhere
As for the weapons, Jake only needs the codes, delivered by UU. UU: i relayed the information enabling yoU to create the powerfUl weaponry yoUrself.
UU: and yoU did!
UU: yoU then sent them back in time. yoU may recover them in the rUins, which conveniently is where yoU mUst go to ship the package once and for all.
John didn't alchemize Zillyhoo, Liv had it, and she made it bigger for him to use.
Sorry, I meant to add 'received it' after 'John'. Because this Warhammer is probably the same one Gamzee has.
Folders and sigquotes below. Warning: This may cause brain damage.
Stormspirit: Witch of Heart, Thief of Fun, Queen of Awesome, Witch of Art and proud member of the Horrorterror Hug Squad Folders Dani is the coolest but MW is much cooler Facepalm Compendium
Sigquotes
Originally Posted by ArmsAreLoud
I think between rape face Bonnie and cam whore KanRose we've got the hilariously awkward covered.
Originally Posted by ArmsAreLoud
Yeah I was kinda surprised by that.
Like
Wait I can see tits
I CAN SEE TITS
DD officially has the best reading material, hands down.
they could alchemize another one when building up the pile of weapons to put in the capsule
I'm quite sure that someone has a zillion grist somewhere
Maplehoof picked one up for Rose back when Mom pounded that one thing into crudburger. It was that one little atomy looking thing. Zillion Grists sure are weird!
DANI IS THE COOLEST AND SO IS CANDY CORN
READ THIS SHIT MOTHERFUCKERS
Also FantrollsV
Hardes Skylia, anonymous indigo with a passion for hatred and roleplaying. Vyconi Beilun, studious, intelligent, and a douche.
Originally Posted by MythicalWashrag
Land of Cotton and Candy.
Good Quote, Best Ship.
Originally Posted by ArmsAreLoud
This isn't sweaty evidence. This is cold, hard fact. Like a mallet that I've left in the freezer just so I can smack somebody with it later.
Yes, good.
Originally Posted by wrinklefudger
should this happen at the end of homestuck, yes or no?
As for the weapons, Jake only needs the codes, delivered by UU. UU: i relayed the information enabling yoU to create the powerfUl weaponry yoUrself.
UU: and yoU did!
UU: yoU then sent them back in time. yoU may recover them in the rUins, which conveniently is where yoU mUst go to ship the package once and for all.
ok so none of the weapons are jujus
I don't think a piece of information can be a juju either, so thats this entire problem solved
qechidna, zillyhoo, deringer, all 8 letters, and we already know FFFFFFWW for the Crosshairs
Originally Posted by Destruction Dragon 360
I've been reading a Sburbventure that is doing that. It's a Mantrioshka Doll of lotus capsules.
its lotus capsules all the way down
and the last one contains an extremely angry B1 Jack
What's really cool about the whole thing is the Zillyhoo has no starting point (unless it's Gamzee) and is in fact a weapon that originates in paradox if I am correct.
In essence coming from nothing. They are really hard to keep track of for people in the comic and appear to be a bit difficult from even our privileged vantage point as readers. Cal has the same sort of closed time loop existence too. You just described evidence for the Hammer to be juju, at least.
Oh cool, 888.
Have a spidergrub pretending to be a chestburster.
Wait... what? Where did those two extra posts even come from? Did I double post somewhere?
Mysteries abound tonight. You know what, keep the spider grub.
ok so none of the weapons are jujus
I don't think a piece of information can be a juju either, so thats this entire problem solved
qechidna, zillyhoo, deringer, all 8 letters, and we already know FFFFFFWW for the Crosshairs
No, just as long as the "original" jujus lose importance. There are multiple Cals running around, for instance, but only one can be the true juju at any given time. The others aren't true copies (they're dead or inert)...just kinda like cheep mock ups. For instance, Jade's Crosshairs would be juju when Eridan gave her the code. Eridan's crosshair's was juju up to the point where it changed hands of ownership, since he tossed his. That crosshair's iteration is no longer important, nor is it the true crosshair's anymore. Juju is very weird stuff.
I'm pretty sure that the items that the bunny had when John got it are in the capsule meaning that UU somehow obtained all these items the codes may have been written in Roses book.
EDIT: How did I not notice the pages wherein he got the items?
Does this mean that the white king or something else will come out of the capsule?
Better luck next time, bE!
(although the other wall is almost definitely inside it, I am pedantic enough to consider this defferent for the sake of this post )
I was TOTALLY RIGHT though and your pedantry means nothing.
Well okay maybe more like 90% right. I really should have predicted it being inside the same building it was in back in B1
dammit
Originally Posted by MythicalWashrag
Yes I am much more awesome than these people bothering you for Legsquest and so my request is more important.
I am glad you see reason.
FTFY.
Originally Posted by recalcitrantIre
yes everyone was wrong about it being the fourth wall that got stolen
so where the bloody hell is it?
It's inside the round building he just shrunk down. You know, this one.
so obvious in retrospect dammit why didn't I think of that????
Edit: It could be in the flower as well due to Weird Time Shit, though.
ANDREW why are Dave's shoes colored differently on pg. 6231 and pg. 6247?
Originally Posted by A Salad
Originally Posted by Protoman
Tavros can commune with animals.
Equius is STRONG.
Vriska can control people's minds.
Gamzee is incredibly strong when psychotic.
Karkat has shoosh pap.
Karkat is OP, Andrew please nerf.
Originally Posted by impetusPhantasm
Guys stop with the pap references or I will do some sort of acrobatic fucking pap off the shoosh.
Originally Posted by curiousTerminal
Originally Posted by Trapezoid
FUCK I'M FALLING DOWN ALL THIS SHOOSH.
(It keeps pappening?)
Originally Posted by armeggedonCounselor
Originally Posted by ArmsAreLoud
Up until now Sollux has been shown to get ALL THE LADIES and NONE OF THE MEN, so it would be a reasonable assumption to think Sollux has the same boobs fetish Kanaya has.
So Sollux is a lesbian?
Originally Posted by mysteriousOutsider
Originally Posted by rufuslynx
Irony is Dave's attempt at crafting a personality so he doesn't have to acknowledge/show who he really is. For "Bro," it's just an art. Granted, we've only had one conversation with actual "Bro," but irony seems to be something he genuinely enjoys.
So you're saying Dave is just into it ironically.
Originally Posted by Yrr
Every time Hussie posts it's like a chorus of angels come down and tell us all to go fuck ourselves because we're wrong.
I feel enlightened.
Originally Posted by Tirgo
Originally Posted by IPadDoodler
Why is everybody shipping each other?
pay more attention, you're in the mspa forums.
Originally Posted by Andrew
Originally Posted by mysteriousOutsider
Originally Posted by Andrew
The content of my posts is always meaningless and not worth reading. I only post so others may bask in my vicinity. People will talk for years about that one awesome time I TOTP'd page fifteen of that one thread, and they got to post underneath it.
Hey Andrew remember that one time that you quoted my post? That was awesome.
I will deny this happened to my grave.
Originally Posted by ArmsAreLoud
But Andrew you just did it again and now we can all testify that you totally did it.
This translates directly into Homestuck being busted.
Originally Posted by safetyboots
Better than anything I could ever write. Genius.
Originally Posted by Andrew
I just google-translated my post to safetyboots to Chinese and then back to English again, so he can understand it better.
Have you considered the possibility that some of you are reading in your head, that is the source of your dissatisfaction? You will not be the first time to your in-depth analysis of advanced materials.
This is my professional opinion.
Consider evidence, such as some of your words of bizarre construction.
"Do something, I do not think everything like a fool!"
"Sir Egbert king slime prestige class decided to give a shot."
A site of production of these reports BOT do? What do they mean? Is a process, the idea of being able to clearly inform you build?
Your post is like reading a written review of serious, run through Google translate into Chinese and then back to England again.
Originally Posted by Kibble Wensleydale
I wonder if you people really appreciate how far technology has come in the past ten years to allow this many animated eyebrows to oscillate simultaneously on a single webpage.
This, truly, is the future that our forebears envisioned.
Originally Posted by MythicalWashrag
Originally Posted by mysteriousOutsider
Originally Posted by MythicalWashrag
Wait have I been rude for not stabbing people when I greet them?
I think you know the answer to that already. And I trust that you will correct your behaviour immediately.
This will make for an interesting party later today.
Originally Posted by General-jwj
I don't even own a knife. That's some major breach of etiquette right there :/
Barbarian!
Originally Posted by Achille'sHamstring
Killing characters before they appear. Hussie is breaking killing-off-character records here. This is probably the highest ratio of pathos to screentime that can be accomplished. Hell, it doesn't even register, since you'd have to divide by the zero pages that they appeared in. It approaches infinity if you take the limit, sure, but the actual zero mark is a void of pure madness.
Originally Posted by Greyscale
Originally Posted by Legendary
Indeed. The official male homosexual pairing is obviously Gamzee Dirk.
That's a funny way of spelling Dirk <3< Karkat.
Originally Posted by mysteriousOutsider
Originally Posted by Vanymstorm
Originally Posted by mysteriousOutsider
Originally Posted by Vanymstorm
His manner of death wasn't described at all. Crushing is mostly an internal thing, anyway.
Yes, I believe that is a well documented side effect.
Originally Posted by mysteriousOutsider
Originally Posted by kmsumrall
I like Eridan's theme. Oh, his death was pretty neat.
I will agree that, as deaths go, it was pretty great.
A++ would chainsaw again
Originally Posted by PumpkinMan
Originally Posted by mysteriousOutsider
I don't remember Jack performing any particularly stylish or entertaining murders. He's not really into the fancy stuff.
Although that one time he killed Nep with a DOOF was kinda okay. Hmm also Jane's 'greet'. I guess he has a talent for murder sound effects.
He's a musician. His instrument is murder. With it he plays a beautiful symphony that echoes across paradox space. A symphony of stabs.
Originally Posted by SwariSexualPosition
I don't think you guys understand.
There's a fucking diamond in that translation.
Originally Posted by mysteriousOutsider
Originally Posted by Asphodel
Am I the only who was disappointed when they tried to scroll the list of echeladder rungs? /stupid stupid dumb
every time
Originally Posted by ArmsAreLoud
Originally Posted by deathsbuddy
Originally Posted by ArmsAreLoud
Originally Posted by bloodyEmissary
Originally Posted by ArmsAreLoud
Originally Posted by bloodyEmissary
Oh My!
(read this in Takei's voice)
I don't know who this Takei person is but I suspect I've got her a little hot under the collar.
It's cool, kinkspirit doesn't mind.
...
oh my god
Takei is like fourteen or something isn't she
Kinkspirt doesn't mind but I do. :U
George Takei is a member of the original Star Trek cast and an outspoken gay rights activist
This whole string of conversation has been ruined for me and made several times better for everyone else in a single moment
Originally Posted by ArmsAreLoud
Aradia is kA's favorite character and he thought it would be funny to hijack the thread.
I was going to dive kick him to death but he distracted me with the sexy.
Originally Posted by ArmsAreLoud
Originally Posted by bloodyEmissary
Well, 3/16 of my sigquotes currently contain one or more posts by you, but 7/16 contain posts by mO.
dun dun dun?
THEN I MUST DIVE KICK HIM UNTIL HE SUBMITS HIS PLACEMENTS TO ME
Originally Posted by mysteriousOutsider
Originally Posted by Kaleb702
It appears we have hit a Wine In Front Of Me situation.
It's either a red herring or truth.
The question is which is it.
Is Andrew making it look obvious to make us think that's not the answer, or is Andrew making it look obvious to make us think that it IS the answer?
I think it's quite obvious that Andrew put a red herring in both cups.
Originally Posted by M41C3LPH
Originally Posted by Ace of Dark-Hearts
Originally Posted by MonsterGrrl
Didn't UU say that she'd never seen another of her species? I'm kind of running on poo-brain here, but if they share a room, yet shes never seen him- isnt that another point in favor of the UU is uu theory?
No this obviously means that Lord English is uu except he kidnapped Roxy and us exploiting her Voidy powers to make him invisible
In Homestuck, Occam's Razor is shaped like a corkscrew.
Originally Posted by Wacom Guy
Okay, you know what I think about Andrew letting a fantroll become the most important character?
The same way I felt about Notch's beard.
PEOPLE HAVE TO STOP BETTING IMPORTANT THINGS ON PEOPLE NOT PAYING ABSURD AMOUNTS OF MONEY
Originally Posted by mysteriousOutsider
Oh gosh the whole time I was bonding with amazing people over shared interests in a place devoted to said interests and forming real and lasting friendships which have significantly positively impacted my life I never considered that I might be inconveniencing the "asshole who doesn't give a shit and only shows their face around here to bitch about other people having fun" demographic.