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Do you think that the facepaint is completely necessary to be a full juggalo, or do you see it more as just a minor physical expression of spirit, in the same vein as wearing a crucifix necklace?
this is from a personal viewpoint.
neither. painting the face is like putting on a shirt. the shirts i wear, i wear as a minor way of individual expression. letting the world know what i like and who i am. facepaint is much the same. an outer expression of who i am.
while that may sound like your second option, i attach no spiritual significance to it.
my internal perception of myself is that of a jester. when i paint my face, it lets everyone else know this.
of course, i rarely have the opportunity for painting my face... just when going to a juggalo event, or perhaps on holloween.
other juggalos most likely have different opinions, facepaint is a fairly personal thing, and in no way is it "required".
of my own clique, fully half of us never painted up.
sorry for the late response, i moved and dont have a stable connection to the internet.
define being a juggalo....
being a juggalo is choosing to walk the path of the pariah. there are many facets to the gem. we are clowns. clowns exist to make fun of society in order to point out its flaws, this comes from the genesis of clowns in western society from the jesters in medieval courts. by removing yourself from the social structure, you may give up the prestige possible within the society, but you also gain the ability to criticize it without repercussion. second is the related attribute of being a "scrub". not all juggalos are scrubs... but the vast majority are. we're dirty and poor. most of us would rather be happy and honest in the gutter, rather than insatiable and deceitful in a manor.
that makes a juggalo a double pariah. this means society as a whole generally either hates us or likes to pretend we dont exist. all of this external hatred serves to strengthen the bonds between individual juggalos, and thus the group as a whole. talking to another juggalo is awesome, imagine, here is someone who shares most of your interests, dislikes most of the things you dislike, likely lives by a similar set of morals, and to top it off, the world hates this other person just as much as it hates you.
being shit on really forges a strong bond, anywhere, not just in juggalos. for example, i would still kill and die for any member of my former platoon in the army. how did i forge such a bond? because those guys were right there with me, getting shit on just as much as i was. i think the proper expression is "a community of any size will pull closer together when facing adversity".
there is quite a bit of diversity among us, so it's hard to lay out a more exact definition.
how does it feel knowing that in canon your idols are supporters of the batterwitch?
What is your opinion of non-Juggalos?
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ambivalent. While condy is supposed to be "bad", she is in reality working towards the same end as the various groups of protagonists.
And point of fact, i have no idols. I respect ICP's success through adversity, and i enjoy their products, but they get no other special feeling from me. They are men just as i am. They put their pants on one leg at a time, just like everyone else.
If anything, they are my "homies". i mean, ive played d&d with j's older brother. For me, its hard to hero-worship people youve rp'ed with.
I try not to form an opinion of any person or group until i have interacted with them. 99.9% of the world is not juggalo.
It's all superfluous anyway, people are people. These labels we use are really meaningless. What matters is not your tastes, interests,or lifestyle- but what's inside. I get along with and "like" others who have similar morals and ethics to me. Having opinions similar to my own is a bonus. I dislike those on the other side of the spectrum. It does not matter if they are a juggalo or not.
D&D is the great equalizer.
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I so agree with this, and that doesn't even make much sense since it wasn't much of a statement to begin with. What I mean is, society is harsh, "culture" (or whatever you wanna call it) is harsh. What's so infuriating to me is that it doesn't have to be, if there were more people out there (like the juggaloes) who didn't care at all about prestige and instead just cared about themselves and the people around them, being happy and whatnot. Well, I guess the world would be a much better place (I say this with the risk of sounding cliché).being a juggalo is choosing to walk the path of the pariah. there are many facets to the gem. we are clowns. clowns exist to make fun of society in order to point out its flaws, this comes from the genesis of clowns in western society from the jesters in medieval courts. by removing yourself from the social structure, you may give up the prestige possible within the society, but you also gain the ability to criticize it without repercussion. second is the related attribute of being a "scrub". not all juggalos are scrubs... but the vast majority are. we're dirty and poor. most of us would rather be happy and honest in the gutter, rather than insatiable and deceitful in a manor.
Now I'm not gonna glorify juggaloes out of proportion, they're just people after all, but I do think the main sentiment of the culture is a big improvement on the way most people act.
Anyhow, here's my question. The way I see it, there are several similarities between the juggalo culture and brony culture (I assume everyone knows about this culture by now), so how do you feel about bronies and their values?
PONIES?
they have more in common than just liking a show designed for little girls? or perhaps being attracted to fauna of a not so anthropomorphic nature?
to tell the truth, i know little about bronies or their culture, as bluntly, it sickens me. amazing that so many made fun of chris-chan for being into the old shit before the new shit came out. glad no one's asked me about what i think of his juggalo video (though i just opened myself up to it, lol)
again, bluntly, most of the concepts ive heard people extoll from the pony show are represented in just about any cartoon aimed at children. you can find the same in transformers (also by 'hasbro, btw). in fact, back in good ole geewun, you could find morality lessons you cant find on children's TV at all today, such as "it isnt right to pretend to be gods to those from a primitive society", and "never trust a middle eastern dictator". if only regan had learned from the allegory of the little nation of carbombya.
oh, was i rambling about transformers again? sorry, i do that a lot.
oh yea, bronies. way i see it, i have no problem with other people liking what they will... i just dont have to be around such stuff as i do not enjoy, so i am not. where people start with the pony talk and images, i quickly am not there anymore. no offense to anyone, but it is not my thing and i dont want to be around it at all.
Yeah... It doesn't matter to me whether people like the show or not, just as long as they accept the fandom as well as any other. What it signifies to me is more of a social/cultural revolution. I see myself as a brony, but I admit the show really isn't that amazing in itself. The feeling of defeating the boundraries that have been placed upon you by society are exhilarating however. I find myself to be much more open minded and free of the "system" or whatever you want to call it after I've learned to accept the part of my mind that likes mlp. That's what I meant when I said the culture was alike to um... juggaloism? XD
I guess I might be attributing the two some similarities that are no different from their similarities to other fandoms and cultures, they're just very fresh in my mind right now, so I can't help but draw comparisons. I'm just glad there's a few people out there who feel the poison of the world culture as much as I do. And I forgot what my point was... Oh well, Antler out
PONIES?
Why do Juggalos Like faygo so much, I'm sorry if this has been asked already.//
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i see. you could say much the same of any fandom. for example, those who are attracted to fauna of an anthropomorphic nature. i believe it is an attribute of any subculture, personally.
i dont think it has been. the number one pair of reasons juggalos like faygo is that it is cheap, and comes in a million and one flavors. i think the fact that faygo isnt mainstream is a big part of it. you dont really see too many faygo commercials (outside of Michigan, i assume).
being cheap is a major plus when you plan on spraying the beverage, not drinking it.
wait, is it common knowledge that we do that?
well, if any of you didnt, and ever wanted to go see ICP in concert, do not wear things you really care about. you will get drenched in budget soft drink. it does not matter where you are in the crowd, there are stagehands in clown masks with supersoakers, and they will get you. especially if you happen to be tall. those bastards like to get me right in the fucking eyes.
it's not so bad at a show for any other act on psychopathic. faygo armegeddons are ICP's thing. the other guys will throw water onto you, but i have always been grateful for that, myself. it's really hot in those mosh pits.
Last edited by RAK; 07-14-2012 at 01:06 AM.