Bungling Archaeology 101

[Destruction Dragon 360]

Maybe uu is the Sufferer?

I mean the prescratch troll versions might be very different from their post scratch versions.

Nice girl Aranea became a ruthless pirate rapist post scratch. Who's to say the Sufferer wasn't an asshole pre scratch? It was said that the Sufferer remembered what the Troll species was like pre scratch, maybe the changes were too much for him, and we just wanted things to go back to the way they were, and mellowed out a bit?

Until his death anyway.

That doesn't make any sense! The A1 trolls were peaceful, why would they slaughter the limebloods? Why would uu and UU be the only ones left? Why would they be the only ones in the session?!

[Everanix]

Dream selves Blood. Hulk transformation whenever one goes to sleep. Changing the Blood.

What

No

None of those things

Agreed. Hussie is really setting up a Bec.
I just don't know if he's going to go through with it.

Thenagain, Bec's prototyping was never really alluded to. What's a better analogy?
It's basically just a red herring.

If this is a red herring I will be so relieved you have no idea

Wait why am I saying this Hussie will only use it against me

I uh, I really hope they're the same person.

Yeah.

Their one body is hooked up to a dialysis machine. When uu takes over, it pumps in the red blood. When UU has it, it pumps the lime blood in. The process is extremely painful.

No way, you say?

Yes.

I do.

*shrug*
Hussie could just be trolling us with this same body stuff. Or not. We'll find out soon enough.

There's nothing wrong with challenging theories, as long as there's evidence against it.

But I don't like shooting down people's ideas!

But this is a big pet peeve for me, and I don't think it would be an interesting way to make the story go.

Not that it really matters at all because I'll read Homestuck no matter what so why am I even complaining







Hussieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Bandages]

Two blood colors.

[CITATION NEEDED]

[ImperatorMortis]

That doesn't make any sense! The A1 trolls were peaceful, why would they slaughter the limebloods? Why would uu and UU be the only ones left? Why would they be the only ones in the session?!

Just a passing theory.

Found this on Tumblr.





Could UU be trying to trick Jane, and ruin her session? Maybe uu was in his own assholeish way trying to help Dirk. Maybe UU is actually evil, and uu is the good one?

[mas369]

what if Mindfang's journal was a self-insert fanfic
and she was just a bored noble with nothing to do but pore over books all day

Well, Hussie did intentionally write it in the style of a bad fanfic and we really have no reason to trust it, but we have no reason to doubt it either, so until we get something that explicitly contradicts it I will just assume it's accurate.

[Tirgo]

guys

guys

split personality

durr

[Stormspirit]

That doesn't make any sense! The A1 trolls were peaceful, why would they slaughter the limebloods? Why would uu and UU be the only ones left? Why would they be the only ones in the session?!

They were peaceful in comparison to the A2 trolls. That's like comparing an enraged bear and a deer. Both can be pretty fucking violent yet one is much less than the other. UU is the only limeblood, not uu, and she would have escaped through some means, just like the Sufferer and Karkat did. And having them be the only ones would be simply because everyone else is dead.

[Warden]

I don't think UU/uu are in the same body either. Mainly because of this:

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One has UU's horns... The other has yet to be seen. This image also leads me to believe that Gamzee is gonna create UU/uu with ectobiology... and will send them off on meteors with Cal/the book.

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UU: it was an heirloom, yoU coUld say. passed on from ancestors. i have always had it.
UU: jUjUs are said to have origins which are impossible to Understand or trace. some say they emerge spontaneoUsly from the void.
UU: they cannot be trUly dUplicated. if there ever appears to be more than one of the same, it is only a mirage of caUsality!

[Morhek]

That's pretty contrived.
Especially because pumping in new blood is not what dialysis machines do.

That Was A Joke

Im Sorry I Thought That Was Obvious

[ImperatorMortis]

guys

guys

split personality

durr

If I know anything about Hussie then the most obvious answer is probably the least likely one.

[NotPete]

But I don't like shooting down people's ideas!

Shooting down is too impersonal. I use a knife

Hussieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I keep his picture taped to my wall so I can shake my fist at it throughout the day.

[Hytheter]

guys

guys

split personality

durr

You really can't just say "spli personality" and think that solves it.
Most people don't tend to change their entire physicality when they have multiple personalities.

[Everanix]

I don't think UU/uu are in the same body either. Mainly because of this:

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One has UU's horns... The other has yet to be seen. This image also leads me to believe that Gamzee is gonna create UU/uu with ectobiology... and will send them off on meteors with Cal/the book.

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UU: it was an heirloom, yoU coUld say. passed on from ancestors. i have always had it.
UU: jUjUs are said to have origins which are impossible to Understand or trace. some say they emerge spontaneoUsly from the void.
UU: they cannot be trUly dUplicated. if there ever appears to be more than one of the same, it is only a mirage of caUsality!

Holy hell man

Yes, yes. I love that people notice things.

Because I sure as hell never do.

/i'msurethishasbeenbroughtupbeforeandijustmissedit

[xqz]

I generally dislike discussing LE's motives, because he doesn't fucking have any.

I only said what was stated in the comic. She serves as his agent in universes he can't reach. From taking this and her current actions in moving the game along we can assume for now that this is her goal. It's not a motivation so much as it is a requirement; Paradox Space requires things to happen so that they can be done wow that was a terrible was of phrasing that whatever



well this was a late reply
you should probably just ignore it

[killerlamb]

okay
so
I just finished reading that delicious potato

and I'm a little drunk

but here's what I'm thinking

uu.... is lord english.
and UU is... the opposite of lord english. because like, there's this theme of, you know, diametirically opposed forces - prospit and derse, good and evil, light and dark, so, it would work if htere were an... opposite of lord english.

and. UU's juju is the bunny.
and uu's juju is Cal

so bunny = good = opposite of LE
cal = evil = LE


bare in mind that
a) I've been drinking
and
b) I have a weirdly good track record when it comes to unsubstantiated ass pull theories

[mas369]

That doesn't make any sense! The A1 trolls were peaceful, why would they slaughter the limebloods? Why would uu and UU be the only ones left? Why would they be the only ones in the session?!

After Aranea revealed that A1 still had the hemospectrum caste system I've had doubts about A1 being as peacful as Doc Scratch made it out to be, and, at best it's pretty similar to our world, witch is pretty shitty, and only a little better than A2 at worst.

[Destruction Dragon 360]

They were peaceful in comparison to the A2 trolls. That's like comparing an enraged bear and a deer. Both can be pretty fucking violent yet one is much less than the other. UU is the only limeblood, not uu, and she would have escaped through some means, just like the Sufferer and Karkat did. And having them be the only ones would be simply because everyone else is dead.

Okay I'm confused. iM was calling uu the A1 Sufferer. Does that not make him a member of the A1 session? So why would they be the only ones in it??

[ImperatorMortis]

I don't think UU/uu are in the same body either. Mainly because of this:

show spoiler

hide spoiler

One has UU's horns... The other has yet to be seen. This image also leads me to believe that Gamzee is gonna create UU/uu with ectobiology... and will send them off on meteors with Cal/the book.

show spoiler

hide spoiler

UU: it was an heirloom, yoU coUld say. passed on from ancestors. i have always had it.
UU: jUjUs are said to have origins which are impossible to Understand or trace. some say they emerge spontaneoUsly from the void.
UU: they cannot be trUly dUplicated. if there ever appears to be more than one of the same, it is only a mirage of caUsality!

If Gamzee really did all this, then he really is the most important character in Homestuck.

[Kaleb702]

Guys about the blood:
What if...
THE SHARED BODY HAS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU MIX LIME AND RED, BUT THE DREAM BODIES HAVE THE COLORS SEPARATE?
There, dispute half-settled.

wow this is like sollux but as a controversy

[NotPete]

Okay I'm confused. iM was calling uu the A1 Sufferer. Does that not make him a member of the A1 session? So why would they be the only ones in it??

They haven't entered yet, so some shenanigans might be abound.

[Destruction Dragon 360]

They haven't entered yet, so some shenanigans might be abound.

That is a bullshit explanation and you know it. Calling shenanigans on something like that doesn't make any sense. UU and uu say they're the only ones left on a dead planet. WHAT. ABOUT. THE OTHER. PLAYERS.

[aPawnAscending]

Could UU be trying to trick Jane, and ruin her session? Maybe uu was in his own assholeish way trying to help Dirk. Maybe UU is actually evil, and uu is the good one?

And the morality of UU debate thickens. I've never quite trusted UU and this ju-ju stuff isn't helping.

I don't think UU/uu are in the same body either. Mainly because of this:

show spoiler

hide spoiler

One has UU's horns... The other has yet to be seen. This image also leads me to believe that Gamzee is gonna create UU/uu with ectobiology... and will send them off on meteors with Cal/the book.

Holy fuck balls, brilliance out of the left field. Also Hussieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Stormspirit]

I don't think UU/uu are in the same body either. Mainly because of this:

show spoiler

hide spoiler

One has UU's horns... The other has yet to be seen. This image also leads me to believe that Gamzee is gonna create UU/uu with ectobiology... and will send them off on meteors with Cal/the book.

show spoiler

hide spoiler

UU: it was an heirloom, yoU coUld say. passed on from ancestors. i have always had it.
UU: jUjUs are said to have origins which are impossible to Understand or trace. some say they emerge spontaneoUsly from the void.
UU: they cannot be trUly dUplicated. if there ever appears to be more than one of the same, it is only a mirage of caUsality!

The horns are not the same at all. The tips and curves are very different, and the horns of UU are directly on her head, not protruding from the sides.

Okay I'm confused. iM was calling uu the A1 Sufferer. Does that not make him a member of the A1 session? So why would they be the only ones in it??

Shenanigans. I don't know, I wasn't trying to support that point, just showing you that placing a strawman argument won't help your case either.

[mas369]

The horns are not the same at all. The tips and curves are very different, and the horns of UU are directly on her head, not protruding from the sides.

Aradia. That is all.

[NotPete]

That is a bullshit explanation and you know it. Calling shenanigans on something like that doesn't make any sense. UU and uu say they're the only ones left on a dead planet. WHAT. ABOUT. THE OTHER. PLAYERS.

Did they? Where does it say that they where the only ones left on their planet? UU is the only one left of her blood color, but I'm pretty sure that there are plenty of other trolls around.