IDE/Theory Thread 25: The Red Supergiant is the Forge

[The_Codfish]

Did Hussie say that? Can you point out where he said that?

[Conspicuous]

Did Hussie say that? Can you point out where he said that?

christopher-fantastic asked:
Will we ever get any more insight on the origin of the Felt? A lot of people have these great ideas that they were once carapieces and whatnot. The subtle Eggs and Biscuits reference in the recent update has sparked my interest on them again.

Probably.

Here you go.

Okay, nothing definitive, but I'd expect to see at least something about them.

[Mechajin]

IDE: the Exiles of each session are intended to play their own version of The Game

IDE 2: The Kids' Browser Icons don't take the appearance of the actual Denizen themselves, they instead take the appearance of their minions. The real denizen's are instead the respective players' Guardian, Reborn in a God Tier like process. Making it a final test, to see if they are able to stop depending on their guardian, and grow into an adult.

[Conspicuous]

IDE 2: The Kids' Browser Icons don't take the appearance of the actual Denizen themselves, they instead take the appearance of their minions. The real denizen's are instead the respective players' Guardian, Reborn in a God Tier like process. Making it a final test, to see if they are able to stop depending on their guardian, and grow into an adult.

So John practically crapped his pants when he met his Dad in Typheus' palace?

And Bro secretly uses hammers?

And Grandpa was the mother of all monsters?

And Mom ate all the fish?

[linkzeldi]

Okay. Calliope was the mother of the BARD Orpheus.

Orpheus was dismembered, and she recovered his head and enshrined it at the island of LESBOS.

I'm calling it, Gamzee is going to be beheaded by Kanaya.
/shot.

[mysteriousOutsider]

So John practically crapped his pants when he met his Dad in Typheus' palace?

And Bro secretly uses hammers?

And Grandpa was the mother of all monsters?

And Mom ate all the fish?

okay it didn't seem all that plausible at first but that last one convinced me

[Conspicuous]

okay it didn't seem all that plausible at first but that last one convinced me

She uses the void to hide all that fat.

[cyberHeroine]

I'm pretty sure someone would have mentioned if it was an emotional battle rather than a purely physical battle. No-one would be so casual about just mentioning that they murdered their own parent.

[ASBusinessMagnet]

IDE: The Cherubim will be created by B2 session.

To think about it, they have white sclera and a humanoid form like humans, but beyond that they have nothing in common with the trolls.

[Mechajin]

So John practically crapped his pants when he met his Dad in Typheus' palace?
And Bro secretly uses hammers?
And Grandpa was the mother of all monsters?
And Mom ate all the fish?

Okay Yeah good point

Anyway, Yeah, it was more of a baseless Wild Mass Guess than anything. I think the thing that made me think of the Denizens being more than just giant monster bosses is that their themes are similar to that of the kids, implying some kind of emotional significance in my mind. Maybe they are shadow reflections or so-*Shot*

[Plaid]

Slight diversion from the greek god path everyone seems to be taking right now into egyptian, as suggested by a friend of mine.

First we have Seshat. Of note from her wiki page:

She is frequently shown dressed in a cheetah or leopard hide, a symbol of funerary priests. If not shown with the hide over a dress, the pattern of the dress is that of the spotted feline. The pattern on the natural hide was thought to represent the stars, being a symbol of eternity, and to be associated with the night sky.

Seshat assisted the pharaoh in the "stretching the cord" ritual. This ritual is related to laying out the foundations of temples and other important structures in order to determine and assure the sacred alignments and the precision of the dimensions. Her skills were necessary for surveying the land after the annual floods to reestablish boundary lines. The priestess who officiated at these functions in her name also oversaw the staff of others who performed similar duties and were trained in mathematics and the related store of knowledge.

After the pairing with Thoth the emblem of Seshat was shown surmounted by a crescent moon, which, over time, degenerated into being shown as two horns arranged to form a crescent shape, but pointing downward (in an atypical fashion for Egyptian art). When the crescent moon symbol had degenerated into the horns, she sometimes was known as Safekh-Aubi, meaning she who wears the two horns.[7] In a few images the horns resemble two cobras, as depicted in hieroglyphs, but facing each other with heads touching.

She's also seen as a scribe and to have invented writing, which is a kind of vague link to Calliope in greek mythology as her emblem was a writing tablet.

Her male counterpart is Thoth.

Thoth is credited with creating the calendar and is the 'reckoner of time and of seasons'.

This site suggests that Thoth and Seshat were just aspects of each other, and that as Thoth grew more important he absorbed her roles and priesthood (no temples dedicated to her have been found, though evidence of her having priests does exist).

Also amusing- They had a child named Hornub, which is interesting considering the occasional hint of links to the sufferer.

[FFWF]

IDE/THEORY: Lord English had all the limebloods wiped out on A2 partly because they reminded him of Calliope.

[Mechajin]

WMG: Felt Text is Similar to UU's Lime. She said she had given up Hemotyping. COINCIDENCE!? PROBABLY. I THINK NOT.

[Metal]

[bullcrapIDE]

LE is the First Guardian of Cherub Planet. The genetic code for him was written by uu. Now that uu has the crappy fanart/fantenderporn out of the way, he gives a shot at fan fiction. Unfortunately, he is crappy at writing that as well and ends up writing what ultimately becomes LE's genetic code. The paradox sludge used for LE is that of UU/uu's(given that the whole two people in one body thing is still a thing) waking self after it dies. Also, apparently along the way, UU/uu lost a leg.

[/bullcrapIDE]

[Zaverxi]

IDE: Master classes are obtained only by a glitch in the regular classes, 'evolving' their class. Muse could be an evolution of Sylph, and the other class could be either Lord or King and would be evolved from Prince.

[cyberHeroine]

IDE: Master classes are only obtainable in 2-player sessions, and therefore always correspond to only Time and Space. They exist because otherwise completing the game with two players would be nearly impossible.

[Vanymstorm]

WMG: Felt Text is Similar to UU's Lime. She said she had given up Hemotyping. COINCIDENCE!? PROBABLY. I THINK NOT.

Could you be more specific?

[Blaperile]

IDE/Theory: On the 7000th page of MSPA, we're going to see uu.

[Zephyrus]

Alright, theory time. This one is pretty intense, so make sure your socks are securely fastened. Several times in the comic, Cal's eyes have been referred to as "dead". Unlikely a coincidence, I ignored it at the time and speculated it being some temporal corpse of LE or some shit, but that isn't the theory here nor does it make any sense because LE is apparently "unkillable" by normal means. The most recent update gave me a better idea. How about Cal is short for Calliope(Or Calmasis: aka, speculated uu) and it is actually Calliope's/Calmasis' corpse?!?!?! (Excessive punctuation for emphasis) So, in order to wake her/him, someone needs to kiss Cal. I'm calling it right here. Spot on.

Edit: I nearly forgot to include some joke involve sloppy corpse makeouts with lil' cal. I'll leave that to your imagination.

Edit x2 combo: Calmasis has been speculated as to be uu. This makes more sense in the context. The abbreviation still holds true, and the same concept works. Except in this case, Calmasis will wake up when someone kisses Cal? it would also be worthy to note that if it is indeed Calmasis/uu, then Calmasis will have to die. Probably sometime soon. Since UU's dream-self is apparently dead, uu probably fits better into the whole waking up/sloppy corpse makeouts theory. Unfortunately, this doesn't explain why uu wants him to throw little Cal into the fire. In THAT case, UU fits better.

[Lemyng]

just some speculations:
my cherub hunch was right... but them UU cosplaying and all made me disbelief of that and now I can just laugh XD
I'd bet uu class is called Lord, he must be the Lord of Time
what bugs me is how Lil' Cal eyes looks like cherubs eyes... and the fact that his eyes are cyan...
LE really must be a cherub, and I wonder why his eyes are like Snookers balls changing all time

[LMLYP]

calliope has eight letters

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[color=dave]that was a hell of a mystery no one thought was a mystery and etc

[Lemyng]

calliope has eight letters

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[color=dave]that was a hell of a mystery no one thought was a mystery and etc

Wow! true o.o

[DenizenShipper]

Theory: Roxy has just been handed the keys to defeating Lord English. She will mispronounce it at least once. Probably 3 or 4 times.

[Silvak]

Speculation the trolls universe was created by the cherubs as the trolls have a 6 letter pattern while the kids have a 4 letter pattern and it seems that the cherubs have a 8 letter pattern making it a 8>6>4 so that each subsequent universe's inhabitants will have two less letters so that the universe that the human kids create will have 2 letter named s___b players. Seems highly implausible but just wanted to leave that here

[LMLYP]

dave was completely absent from the fourth wall rewind sequence in "Cascade"

andrew said on tumblr that the flashbacks were being broadcast through the lining of the cairo overcoat, which "belongs to someone purported to be a master of time".

lord english's birth will take place "in the proximity of some horses"

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-- and it already did