[Game Chat] VI: AGDQ 2013 Jan 6-12! Beat games and cancer!

[weirdguy]

So, I'm kinda really tempted to put down 99 bucks on an OUYA, but I'm not really sure why. Does anyone have an opinion for/against it? Does anyone know if it'll cost that much when it hits retail?

unless you're a heavy modder, i'd wait until the thing's got some feet to stand on

it's looking good but it's hard to justify betting on these things these days without a personal interest in it

[BRPXQZME]

If you can’t state why you’d want to back the project, it’s probably better not to back it. The purpose of a proposal, after all, is to convince you of certain things, like why it’s worth your money and that they can deliver. But if you want to buy it on impulse just because you’ve been struck by the “I wants”, I guess you can. It’s your money. At the current adoption rate, I’m sure someone out there will port the proper thingummies so you will at least have decent games on your TV even if this turns out to be a big fat disappointment.

So that said, the idea appeals to me personally, because I think the market deserves cheaper consoles available to a wide audience. And if I had that kind of throwin’ around money (and time to develop games), I’d be one of the devkit pledges. If.

[slyfan64]

Beat KH 358/2 days...answered some questions I had from KH II nicely and added a fare amount extra...now I'm sad because Dearly Beloved is playing on the ending screen. You'd think after so many runs of KH I and II that this them would go old, but it's still really powerful:



Onto Dream Drop Distance!

[Miraculous]

Onto Dream Drop Distance!

Aka Final Fantasy x Disney x Nintendogs.

This is not a bad thing.

[BRPXQZME]

This is very tangentially related to video games, but...

There was a meetup of fans of certain machinima series (one of them in question is the excellent “Freeman’s Mind”). And one of them was....

[Tirgo]

speaking of kingdom hearts, i finally beat kingdom hearts 2. i say finally because a few months ago i lost to the final boss, put down the controller, turned off my ps2, sat back down, and said "yeah i won that shit."

now i actually did win that shit

it makes me feel no better whatsoever and may have been a waste of time because i didn't get jack shit for doing so

[weirdguy]

as far as he's concerned, this guy gets an F for market studies

[ArmsAreLoud]

Are you sure that you want a game developed by a studio that bombed so badly it got bought out by Crytek and is now making social f2p games

[BRPXQZME]

Uh, perhaps you shouldn’t get all your info on Crytek from that one article. The UK studio (which used to be Free Radical) is currently working on parts of Crysis 3 and Homefront 2. The announced move to F2P is... not exactly what you would expect from the term. They mean F2P with CryENGINE and multi-million euro budgets. I think the article’s author might have been thinking that just saying “like Warface” would cover that part (it does not).

[weirdguy]

the way you put it just makes me want to see it more

[ArmsAreLoud]

Shoosh I will continue to be uneducated if I feel like it dammit

Also guys Persona 4 Arena is a hell of a lot fun

It is easy at the beginner level but has a bunch of depth and also it is still excellent even if you're like me and you've never played any of the Persona games and auuuugh

[Kollaps]

speaking of kingdom hearts, i finally beat kingdom hearts 2. i say finally because a few months ago i lost to the final boss, put down the controller, turned off my ps2, sat back down, and said "yeah i won that shit."

now i actually did win that shit

it makes me feel no better whatsoever and may have been a waste of time because i didn't get jack shit for doing so

I feel like I ought to get KH2 and beat it, since I have a file that's at least up to The World That Never Was, but I've only ever rented KH2. But... hearing something like this isn't entirely encouraging. (Then again, I guess in some respects it's normal.)

[Softspoken]

I feel like I ought to get KH2 and beat it, since I have a file that's at least up to The World That Never Was, but I've only ever rented KH2. But... hearing something like this isn't entirely encouraging. (Then again, I guess in some respects it's normal.)

The final boss... Sequence (not fight. It's a level unto itself) does have some BS moment in it, but is still pretty fun in my opinion.

[Tirgo]

The final boss... Sequence (not fight. It's a level unto itself) does have some BS moment in it, but is still pretty fun in my opinion.

NOW WE'RE SHOOTING YAY

OH WAIT THAT'S HORRIBLE

[Softspoken]

NOW WE'RE SHOOTING YAY

OH WAIT THAT'S HORRIBLE

Press triangle

Press triangle ONE HUNDRED TIMES

[Kollaps]

Press triangle

Press triangle ONE HUNDRED TIMES

Oh boy! (Man, that reminds me -- that section where you had to fight however many Heartless (it was, like, a thousand or something) was basically my least favorite part of the game that I played. After a time, that just gets boring and repetitive.)

[Tirgo]

Oh boy! (Man, that reminds me -- that section where you had to fight however many Heartless (it was, like, a thousand or something) was basically my least favorite part of the game that I played. After a time, that just gets boring and repetitive.)

>mulan world

OH MY GOD LOOK AT ALL THESE ENEMIES

wait these die in one hit

wait there's a forty-five second time limit

wait at the end of these forty-five seconds all the enemies automatically disappear

what


kingdom hearts 2 has a lot of things that piss me off, but i still can't hate it. i just can't help but enjoy it, even though it's so annoying half of the time.

my life is confusing.

also roxas is a horrible thing

[Walliard]

The three other Paradox fans on this forum may be interested to know they just announced Europa Universalis 4. Bunch of other link on their Twitter feed, too.

[BRPXQZME]

Woooooooo

now I’ve been with EU long enough to start complaining about how the new guys have it so easy with their streamlined interfaces

(But I won’t because I don’t see eye to eye with people who do that.)

[Walliard]

I started with EU3:DW and don't want to imagine anything worse than that. And I certainly have no love for the notion that a more accessible interface equates to "dumbing down" the game (looking at you, Bay12 Forums).

[Milskidasith]

The official response in Dwarf Fortress for "a more accessible interface" is generally "It'd be a lot of work that I could use making the game better and that I'd have to rework again very quickly as more features make the new interface clunky."

Dwarf Fortress's current interface is bad but once you learn it it isn't terrible, it's just that there are hundreds of commands and it's pretty hard to make a non-clunky interface for that many different commands. The fact that most suggestions for a less clunky interface do involve removing/consolidating commands, which does lower complexity, is also a reason teh community is hostile towards it.

[Walliard]

The official response in Dwarf Fortress for "a more accessible interface" is generally "It'd be a lot of work that I could use making the game better and that I'd have to rework again very quickly as more features make the new interface clunky."

Dwarf Fortress's current interface is bad but once you learn it it isn't terrible, it's just that there are hundreds of commands and it's pretty hard to make a non-clunky interface for that many different commands. The fact that most suggestions for a less clunky interface do involve removing/consolidating commands, which does lower complexity, is also a reason teh community is hostile towards it.

Oh, I definitely understand; I love Dwarf Fortress and have learned to live with the interface as it is. But wanting dev resources spent elsewhere is different from specifically not wanting more accessibility - a sentiment that certainly exists, even if it's a minority. Hipsters not wanting their indie game to become too popular and all that.

This is veering into straw man territory though, so I should probably stop.

[BRPXQZME]

Today I started on Assassin’s Creed Revelations and the first couple of times it worried me that the startup logo was a bit glitchy. About the third startup, I caught the joke....

[ndoto]

I picked up Evochron Mercenary during the Steam Summer Sale because it sounded interesting. I have never played a space flight sim before (unless you count like, Descent). I may record myself playing it at some point. Space battles are hard. They're hard and nobody understands.

[Quirk]

New Borderlands 2 trailer