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    The Care and Keeping of the Homestuck TvTropes Page

    There is a lot of overlap between Homestucks and Tropers. Because of this, this page is, to put it mildly, HUGE! Or, as the front page says, "Excessively Verbose."
    Now, this is not necessarily a problem; Homestuck does deal in a heck of a lot of Tropes. Hussie knows his stuff, and is not afraid to hang a Lampshade on things. However page has reached such a size where careful editing is difficult. Conversation in the MainPage and a lack of clarity abound. Because we are fans and want everything dealing with Homestuck to be perfect, or at least as good as humanly possible, it has become necessary to combine our efforts.

    I intend this thread to be a place to organize our efforts, and avoid working over each other. There are also times when things could be debated, and while TvTropes has their own forum, MSPAF has some better set ups, and also a more Homestuck-centered community. So I think this is really the best place to keep our home base.

    So, if you can edit and know the difference between different kinds of meta-fiction, join me!
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    Re: The Care and Keeping of the Homestuck TvTropes Page

    I have a tvtropes account! I've started a bunch of works pages... mostly plays because the theater selection is just pitiful. I've though of making a page for Restoration theater because it's really troperific, but it would take a lot of work and I haven't been motivated enough
    All the Dave up in this shit, all of it.

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    Re: The Care and Keeping of the Homestuck TvTropes Page

    Alright, I'm on board this project.

    I guess I need to make a TVTropes account. Huh.
    Road bump.


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    Re: The Care and Keeping of the Homestuck TvTropes Page

    Quote Originally Posted by Doom Zero View Post
    Road bump.
    Pfft. Hardly. It is the most super simple thing ever.

    Then Edit away! Try things out in The Sandbox as well. I spend a lot of time there.
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    Re: The Care and Keeping of the Homestuck TvTropes Page

    I'm in too.

    Though honestly I won't be able to do much besides trim.

    I dislike contributing my own thoughts to stuff like this @__@

    Anyway, off to make an account.

    Have any particular section to assign me Freack?

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    Re: The Care and Keeping of the Homestuck TvTropes Page

    Might be sensible to focus specifically on removing or shortening entries. A lot of the stuff on the various Homestuck pages seems to have been added in the thrill of the moment shortly after an update, and most of it looks sort of silly in hindsight. Also, I'm pretty sure drive-by tropers almost never remove entries, so all this cruft will just stick around forever unless someone gets rid of it.

    For example, a few almost-consecutive entries from the Tear Jerker page:
    -The conversation where Jade bitches out two Karkats at once.
    -A link to this page.
    -The moment at the very end of [S] Jade: Enter where she falls through the snow.
    -Rose's last line on this page, which is obviously reversed immediately afterwards.

    I guess they could be seen as sort of melancholy if you think about them too hard, but I'm pretty sure nobody has ever or will ever cry about those moments. There's also a fair number of entries (like fedorafreak's death, or Andrew's death with the flashing text and the Vriskaface) that objectively don't belong on that page.

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    Re: The Care and Keeping of the Homestuck TvTropes Page

    Frost: You are completely correct, and are you in the business of taking care of those things you pointed out? Because that would be a huge help.

    Everanix: See what Frost did? Do that for all of the "A" tropes, or as many as possible. Fix, or point out what needs it. Please.
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    Re: The Care and Keeping of the Homestuck TvTropes Page

    Being a Troper, I do go to that page a lot. I haven't edited it ever, though. A lot of my recent edits on TVTropes have been grammar nitpicking.

    Do you think in the Fanfic Recs section, should there be tags for illustrated/text-only? I think it would make it easier to find what people are looking for maybe.

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    Re: The Care and Keeping of the Homestuck TvTropes Page

    Quote Originally Posted by Catstorm View Post
    Do you think in the Fanfic Recs section, should there be tags for illustrated/text-only? I think it would make it easier to find what people are looking for maybe.
    There are illustration-only entries? If so, sure, mark those.

    If anybody feels they have "finished" a section, say something here, because it is also important to go and check the words on the Trope entry pages as well, and make sure things match-up.
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    Re: The Care and Keeping of the Homestuck TvTropes Page

    Oops, I meant illustrated/non-illustrated.

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    Re: The Care and Keeping of the Homestuck TvTropes Page

    Quote Originally Posted by Freack View Post
    Everanix: See what Frost did? Do that for all of the "A" tropes, or as many as possible. Fix, or point out what needs it. Please.
    On it.

    Or I'll do my best anyway :I

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    Re: The Care and Keeping of the Homestuck TvTropes Page

    This is a really good idea.

    I'd be happy to help

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    Re: The Care and Keeping of the Homestuck TvTropes Page

    are you in the business of taking care of those things you pointed out? Because that would be a huge help.
    Sorry, no. My situation's complicated, but let's just say that I don't have the time to do stuff like that. I'll try to drop in a few edits when I can.

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    Re: The Care and Keeping of the Homestuck TvTropes Page

    4/13/2009 - 4/13/2010
    4 kids
    365 days (and counting)
    1668 pages
    2024 images
    85,000 words
    63 Flash animations
    5.5 images per day, every day
    1 Flash animation every 6 days
    1 hour total of animated footage
    3000 imported graphic files
    53 songs
    4 albums
    1 sacred urns toppled
    1 mystic ruins desecrated
    1 hallowed tombs defiled
    15 Sweet Bro and Hella Jeffs
    —Andrew, stats for Homestuck first year
    So I am going to be gone for a few days, but you know what would be awesome? If somebody could update the blub at the bottum of the page for the third aniversary. Any huge data nerds want to take care of this?
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    Re: The Care and Keeping of the Homestuck TvTropes Page

    I don't really know how to edit anything on TVtropes, but if you need help finding resources, I'm happy to lend my services!
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    Re: The Care and Keeping of the Homestuck TvTropes Page

    FREACK YOU KEEP LINKING THIS BUT NOTHING IS HAPPENING. C'MON TAKE CHARGE BE A MAN TESTOSTERONE AND SPORTS AAAAUUEEEEEEGHGHGGHGHHGGH

    Seriously let's get moving here.
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    Re: The Care and Keeping of the Homestuck TvTropes Page

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace of Dark-Hearts View Post
    Seriously let's get moving here.
    I am not making as much progress as I would like, and I read somewhere that if the thread starter is also the most recent post people are less likely to click on it. That is really the only thing stopping me.

    I have not made all that much progress on the main page, but right now I am keeping an eye on the sub pages, like characters, and watching all of the recent edits pretty closely just to keep them clean.

    Anybody else who wants to jump in totes should.
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