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[GG7]

Played my new Mono G Stomp deck at Game Day, went to the final game for the mat against W/U control.
Fucking snapcaster.
(I lost)

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mono-...y-stomp-stomp/

I lost to two Mono Green decks. Against each person, I lost the same way. I am at 16, they cast Overrun, I only have 4 1/1 blockers, and they swing for 20. I should have tragic slip in the deck to stop stuff like Predator Ooze.

[I own a horse]

I've been messing around with an online deck maker, and now I'm making a mono black control deck. It has proven to be able to stall pretty effectively, but can't really end the game.

It was this:

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Creatures: 12
3 Diregraf Ghoul
2 Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis
3 Ravenous Rats
4 Vampire Nighthawk

Enchantments: 3
3 Dead Weight

Instants/Sorceries: 17
2 Murder
3 Tragic Slip
3 Tribute to Hunger
3 Duress
2 Altar's Reap
4 Mutilate

Planeswalkers: 3
3 Liliana of the Veil

Lands: 25
25 Swamp

After some editing, it is now:

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Creatures: 13
4 Diregraf Ghoul
2 Griselbrand
3 Ravenous Rats
4 Vampire Nighthawk

Enchantments: 2
2 Dead Weight

Instants/Sorceries: 17
2 Murder
2 Tragic Slip
3 Tribute to Hunger
3 Duress
3 Killing Wave
4 Mutilate

Planeswalkers: 3 Liliana of the Veil

Lands: 25 Swamp

I haven't tested this, but I am almost certain it won't be much different. Any tips?

I've been looking at:

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Sever the Bloodline: Helps against tokens, undying and indestructable cards, but has a bit higher cost. Has flashback as another plus.

Shimian Spectre: This one not so much, but it destroys their hand if it somehow goes through.

Curse of Death's Hold: Also not so much, but it is undeniably helpful.

Victim of the Night: Sideboard maybe? Side in if they don't have any of the immune types.

Unburial Rites: This one not so much as well, it just gives me a second shot with a creature I own, like a nighthawk. The flashback isn't useable which is a drawback. I could use it off of liliana to get griselbrand out earlier as well.

Bloodgift Demon: This is the card I want in the most out of this list. It gets me the draw power I want and has a very relevant 5/4 flying body. There is a lot of life gain in this deck too, so the life loss will usually not matter. Idk where to put it in without throwing off mana curve, however.

ANYTHING to replace diregraf ghoul. I only have it in because it is a 1 drop.

Also, everything in the deck is post rotation. So do not suggest anything rotating. (Even though I'd love to throw grave titans in there instead of griselbrand )
Edit: Also, any way of dealing with planeswalkers, enchantments and artifacts? Besides attacking the planeswalker.

[illisid]

In mono black? Nothing. You either need red for burn, blue for counterspells, white for oblivion ring, or green for beast within / bramblecrush if you want to kill it without combat. That said there are currently 2 colorless answers in standard:

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Do any of you follow competitive standard? I don't play often but it's been pretty fascinating lately. Everyone thought delver was the next caw-blade, and there was even a lot of people calling for something to get banned. Wizards said no and then suddenly... delver stopped being super oppressive. This magical thing called bonfire of the damned turned things upside down: It was great in aggressive decks rather than controlling decks, good against delver decks, and just a super-powered card all around. Also, cavern of souls really did work in said aggressive decks, and suddenly the format opened up. Now there are decks like the black market, which uses trading post and mirrodin wellsprings to generate huge card advantage in a mono black control deck, infect decks using wild defiance, and GW elf combo decks using mana elves into craterhoof behemoth to end the game, topping it off with genesis wave and village bell ringers to go huge.

Naya pod decks look to be the best at the moment, because the pod allows for unreal mana efficiency and it's the best deck to abuse bonfire of the damned. But even through that there's all this cool stuff. Grand architect is seeing play, zombie decks are all over the place, talrand is seeing play in delver decks, everything is so cool right now

[GG7]

I see more and more zombie decks each week, mainly B/u (small splash for Diregraf Captain), and just saw R/B in person for the first time last week.

[Kollaps]

Do any of you follow competitive standard? I don't play often but it's been pretty fascinating lately. Everyone thought delver was the next caw-blade, and there was even a lot of people calling for something to get banned. Wizards said no and then suddenly... delver stopped being super oppressive. This magical thing called bonfire of the damned turned things upside down: It was great in aggressive decks rather than controlling decks, good against delver decks, and just a super-powered card all around. Also, cavern of souls really did work in said aggressive decks, and suddenly the format opened up. Now there are decks like the black market, which uses trading post and mirrodin wellsprings to generate huge card advantage in a mono black control deck, infect decks using wild defiance, and GW elf combo decks using mana elves into craterhoof behemoth to end the game, topping it off with genesis wave and village bell ringers to go huge.

Naya pod decks look to be the best at the moment, because the pod allows for unreal mana efficiency and it's the best deck to abuse bonfire of the damned. But even through that there's all this cool stuff. Grand architect is seeing play, zombie decks are all over the place, talrand is seeing play in delver decks, everything is so cool right now

I don't follow Standard at all, but I know it's a lot more varied than Caw-Blade era -- thankfully. This Black Market deck sounds really cool -- and I'm pretty ashamed for not having thought of it. I liked the idea of Trading Post when it was spoiled.

I've been trying to put together an RWb reanimator, becuase I love playing reanimator, and it seems to have good targets by the truckload right now.

[PrinnySquad]

The era when Jace, The Mind Sculptor and Squadron Hawk were in standard was pretty fucking miserable. Playing against Valakut wasn't much fun either! I think Standard is pretty good right now, and I can't wait to see what RtR brings, especially seeing as it's a multi-colour set.

[GG7]

I think the second planeswalker in Return To Ravnica has a high chance of being Ral Zarek.

He was in Duel of the Planeswalker, but yet had his own card yet. Also, he was originally in Izzet, which is one of the guilds in RtR.

[Bobster]

I really really hope it'd be Ral Zarek, but I'm not sure if they'd print two Blue walkers in the same set. They've still got the 2nd and 3rd sets for him though.

[GG7]

I was also thinking about Kiora Atua being in Gatecrash, but that would mean 3 blue planeswalkers. But she fits so well with Simic, being BG and a Merfolk.

[Kollaps]

I really really hope it'd be Ral Zarek, but I'm not sure if they'd print two Blue walkers in the same set. They've still got the 2nd and 3rd sets for him though.

Technically, they printed two black walkers in ISD and three through the entire block. So... who knows? I doubt he'd be in Gatecrash, though, as that set apparently has no Izzet in it at all.

[GG7]

Technically, they printed two black walkers in ISD and three through the entire block. So... who knows? I doubt he'd be in Gatecrash, though, as that set apparently has no Izzet in it at all.

It feels weird to consider Garruk as Black in my mind.

Also, I think it is really cool that each planeswalker is a different kind of Mage.

Garruk is a beastmage, Liliana is a Necromancer, Koth is a Geomancer, so on and so forth.

I think my favorite planeswalker is either Tibalt or Sorin (I think Nissa is cool except that I wasn't playing Magic when Zendikar was in standard).

[Miff]

Went to two Game Days. Somehow got Top 8 at one and Top 4 at the other with GW Tempered Steel. (What is this thing you call "rotation"?)

[illisid]

people forget about tempered steel! good job.

[GG7]

I lost to a W/R Artifact deck the most stupidly way possible. I misread Koth. I thought it was a -8 ability, not a -5.

[dynamicEquilibrium]

I have an emergency question for all and sundry:
I just acquired a playset of Knowledge Pool
what do I do with them?

it's a funny card and I really want to use it but I can't think of a decent way to get any actual advantage besides just having a lot of cheap or X-cost spells
I guess "Whenever you cast" effects that come from board items could be funny but I don't know of any that are cheap and effective enough to be worthwhile

[GG7]

Wow, that card seems fun to use. The only thing I can think of is maybe exiling counters and then using counters for cheaper costs. The only problem is that your opponent can use the same cards you exile.

[dynamicEquilibrium]

I've narrowed the list down to three general themes:
1. Spiritcraft to take advantage of the multiple-cast frenzy, using especially Sire of the Storm with the green land-search and land-play kami to gain overwhelming cards and mana so I can play every card from both decks
2. Sphinx-Bone Wand and Talrand with a deck made of almost all counters+filtering. This lets me either cheaply take opponents' bomb spells or cast my own instants and sorceries for powerful on-cast effects, and because I have almost all instants and my opponent likely as fewer I can dominate the use of the shared counterspell pool.
3. Fuck the police, play Eye of the Storm, Panopticon Mirror, Planar Chaos, Confusion in the Ranks, and everything else. My opponents will be completely unable to do anything meaningful as the game becomes a madhouse, and since I control triggers I have a better chance of winning with their stuff than they do.

[PrinnySquad]

I think there's a U/W venser deck that uses Knowledge Pool and Curse of Exhaustion to create a lockdown. I'll see if I can find it

[dynamicEquilibrium]

Oh, yeah, of course there is
since... having those two things out together means the cursed player cannot cast spells ever

another funny idea for Knowledge Pool is to play it with Erayo, since she's almost guaranteed to go off as soon as you use the Pool, but I would probably put that into the Eye/Confusion in the Ranks/Panopticon Mirror deck

[GG7]

I'm making a Standard Deck for when the Mirrodin stuff rotates out, but I'm having trouble deciding what to actually choose. I am dead set on tokens, but I am alternating between WB tokens, or Esper (WUb) tokens, which lacks Blood Artist and has black only for lingering. I think WB will pay off in the long run, with Orhzov coming around, but who is to say it won't benefit esper tokens as well? My WB runs some odd choices, like Cathars' Crusade and Attended Knight. Cathars' is game winning at times, and Attended Knight stops some early creatures, like many zombies. Esper basically has many instants and sorceries that make tokems, along with dissipate and think twice.

Basically, I'm asking which seems better to run in your opinions. I love tokens, and I love both builds.

[erisArisen]

Been playing MtG casually since Prophecy, though first boosters I bought (= my dad bought me) were Homelands.
Too lazy/disinterested to get into standard. I mostly play Legacy and EDH, though I've been thinking of getting into modern as it's competitive, different enough from Legacy, and "eternal". I guess I'm in the Johnny-Spike territory when it comes to player stereotypes. I love to tinker and tweak my decks and make them the best they can be with my knowledge and skills, but I'm into creating weird/fun shenanigans rather than playing the NUTZ. EDH is awesome for that. I'm really proud of my Lich-deck (Karona-deck that plays as a token deck for the beginning of the game, and then tries to play Lich and survive. First game: lost to a disenchant. Second game: won with Tokens/Karona-run. Game three: won via Lich + Repay in Kind YEAAAAAAAH).

In Legacy I've been playing storm-combos like Doomsday, Fetchland Tendrils, ANT and Mountain Grapeshot (Mono R storm), but I'm thinking of building a MUD/Stax next.

[GG7]

Been playing MtG casually since Prophecy, though first boosters I bought (= my dad bought me) were Homelands.
Too lazy/disinterested to get into standard. I mostly play Legacy and EDH, though I've been thinking of getting into modern as it's competitive, different enough from Legacy, and "eternal". I guess I'm in the Johnny-Spike territory when it comes to player stereotypes. I love to tinker and tweak my decks and make them the best they can be with my knowledge and skills, but I'm into creating weird/fun shenanigans rather than playing the NUTZ. EDH is awesome for that. I'm really proud of my Lich-deck (Karona-deck that plays as a token deck for the beginning of the game, and then tries to play Lich and survive. First game: lost to a disenchant. Second game: won with Tokens/Karona-run. Game three: won via Lich + Repay in Kind YEAAAAAAAH).

In Legacy I've been playing storm-combos like Doomsday, Fetchland Tendrils, ANT and Mountain Grapeshot (Mono R storm), but I'm thinking of building a MUD/Stax next.

The only term I recognize is Fetchland. I only play standard, since I just started this year.

I wonder if I will ever shift to another format.

[Kollaps]

First few RTR spoilers are out. Populate sure seems like a narrow, narrow keyword. But I guess it could be worse.

[GG7]

I am really hoping there are Populate Permanents, like "At the beginning of each upkeep, Populate." or "Pay 2 and Tap: Populate".

[Kollaps]

Same here. That'd probably improve it a little. As it stands, though, a pretty cute mechanic but, as I said, pretty narrow. Not that I truly dislike it, though. It works great for the intent of having mechanics that feed into the old Ravnica mechanics. I'd like to see the others sometime soon, too.