Choose Your Flavor Mafia: GAME USURPED. (town win, PRIME INTELLECT win)

[Crilly]

since there's no way in hell he's going to win can we uh

lynch Solaris/Acionyx first

I want my win ;-;

well I really want to lynch Aci since yesterday

but beru is scum

and I'm not going to help 3ps at all bro

I play to my town win con bro

[Mirdini]

well I really want to lynch Aci since yesterday

but beru is scum

and I'm not going to help 3ps at all bro

I play to my town win con bro

look it's lynch Acio

someone else dies in the night

h-1 beru, I make everyone ANIMAL, I hammer, I win, you win, everyone's happy.

of course, this is assuming that beru's scum (seems likely), if she isn't rest of the town can we lynch the acio slot before crilly "I play to my town win con"

[Solaris]

Mirdini beruru isn't the last scum.
After her there is probably watts or seastorm who claimed cop in the presence of a new watcher.
Also they are the two idjoits who would extend the day into forever.
Also watts is being a little prickface who is being spiteful at one of the best fuckin players of this damn game when he is literally not in control of his win condition. It isn't like survivor or serial killer or lyncher where it requires careful action on my part, it is fucking guessing. Guessing that just doesn't work when there is a lolobear deciding to make sure that the third parties can't win in the fucking slightest. THERE WAS A WAY OUT. EIDO COULD HAVE KILLED ME. OR HE COULD HAVE HELPED ACIO WIN. BUT NO. BECAUSE YOU TOWN, ARE FUCKNUTS. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT IS O-FUCKING-KAY. BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? I THINK THAT SCUM IS FUCKNUTS TOO.

So
Actually
Elect: Mirdini
Lynch: Solaris

[Solaris]

of course, this is assuming that beru's scum (seems likely), if she isn't rest of the town can we lynch the acio slot before crilly "I play to my town win con"

just to clarify, beruru isn't the last scum member, and i would say that watts is the actual last scum member, not crilly, crilly is just being dumb

[Mirdini]

sigh

yes, beru's probably not scum.

yeah, I already had watts tipped for being the last scum at the end of yesterday.

crilly's post is dumb and stupid and bad which is why I want him dead over it but yeah it's watts with his "OH I'M GOING TO SPITEFUL LOOK AT ME I GET TO BE SPITEFUL AND STILL ACT LIKE TOWN BECAUSE WORKING WITH THIRD PARTIES IS NOT TOWNISH AND SAYING I WON'T IS TOWNISH RIGHT? JUST IGNORE THAT I'VE DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE FOR THE ENTIRE GAME"

plus that turbobus on MV

is it too much to ask to give at least one of the third parties that pretty much move the goddamn game along their win?

[Mirdini]

Vote: Solaris
Elect: Mirdini

if you're not electing me please elect varnock k thanks

[Solaris]

MIRDINI
There is no way that beru isn't scum.
1) She has done nothing in this entire game that wasn't incredibly safe and easy
2) YOU KNOW THAT SHE WOULD DO THIS, YOU KNOW THAT SHE WOULD KILL ALL OF THE NON-ANIMALS SO THAT WE GET FUCKED
3) WHERE IS SHE. WHERE HAS SHE BEEN. I DON'T CARE IF SHE'S BEEN LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME, THE POINT REMAINS THAT SHE ISN'T PUTTING THE SLIGHTEST BIT OF WORK INTO ACTING TOWNLY HERE.
4) SHE IS SCUM.

I want her dead, but after me so that you can win and so that these idiots can go and lose like the idiots they are.

[Mirdini]

like this game is over here's how it goes:

we lynch Solaris today. some townie dies in the night. Down to 6 players.

We lynch beruru tomorrow. some townie dies in the night. Down to 4 players.

I turn everyone into an animal, leave the game, down to 3 players.

The remaining two lynch watts who is the last scum.

everyone's happy.

[Mirdini]

MIRDINI
There is no way that beru isn't scum.

1) She has done nothing in this entire game that wasn't incredibly safe and easy
2) YOU KNOW THAT SHE WOULD DO THIS, YOU KNOW THAT SHE WOULD KILL ALL OF THE NON-ANIMALS SO THAT WE GET FUCKED
3) WHERE IS SHE. WHERE HAS SHE BEEN. I DON'T CARE IF SHE'S BEEN LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME, THE POINT REMAINS THAT SHE ISN'T PUTTING THE SLIGHTEST BIT OF WORK INTO ACTING TOWNLY HERE.
4) SHE IS SCUM.

I want her dead, but after me so that you can win and so that these idiots can go and lose like the idiots they are.

can actually say the exact same points for watts

which is why he is scum

also I may have omitted mentioning that I was given my 3P win condition by a MYSTERIOUS ENTITY who will otherwise kill me apparently (shock, horror, oppobrium). thus beru is probably town and sotek has fulfilled his fetish for actually making an anti-town 3P that isn't an SK.

but really the plan above is foolproof because we have no bonus killing roles left around. can we just go with that one.

[Mirdini]

also me being staunchly anti-town makes 3 mafia team members with 3 3Ps slightly more balanced since I want like what four townies and a 3P dead before the game ends.

[Solaris]

i am 12 and what is this

a rolecop, a watcher, and a cop-cop.

... well, okay.

someone has a guilty on me? lol no.

one of the people seastorm has a """clear""" on can apparently spy on animalchat.
....
can someone who has been an animal tell me if new quicktopics are created every time someone becomes an animal?
because
inox is probably scum, if so.
like, 80% scum.
barring shenanigans and extreme townsidedness of quantities not seen since Crisis :v

LOOK AT THIS SHIT.

lol @ crilly asking to hammer

also judging by skunk's answer i think that the answer to my question is "yes"
in which case hammer inox

MIRDINI LOOK AS BERURU MAKES THE MOST STUNNINGLY EASY OBSERVATION TO MAKE

SHE HAS MADE 24 POSTS IN THIS THREAD
THIS IS A LIST OF PEOPLE ALIVE SHE HAS MENTIONED BY NAME
me, you, crilly, skunk
HMM
WATTS AND SEASTORM ARE UNMENTIONED BY HER
AT ALL
I WONDER IF ONE OF THEM ARE HER SCUM BUDDY

[Solaris]

like this game is over here's how it goes:

we lynch Solaris today. some townie dies in the night. Down to 6 players.

We lynch beruru tomorrow. some townie dies in the night. Down to 4 players.

I turn everyone into an animal, leave the game, down to 3 players.

The remaining two lynch watts who is the last scum.

everyone's happy.

okay good
TOWN DO THIS UNLESS YOU ARE IDIOTS
OH WAIT

[Mirdini]

like this game is over here's how it goes:

we lynch Solaris today. some townie dies in the night. Down to 6 players.

We lynch beruru tomorrow. some townie dies in the night. Down to 4 players.

I turn everyone into an animal, leave the game, down to 3 players.

The remaining two lynch watts who is the last scum.

everyone's happy.

because I just know people are going to ignore this post in favor of making hay about the one below it.

this is a solid plan. I would like to hear any objections anyone could have to it.

[Mirdini]

I WONDER IF ONE OF THEM ARE HER SCUM BUDDY

Fuck's bloody sake


There's zero chance Eido was lying about visceral being scum.

You do not get the equivalent of SIX SCUM TO LYNCH in an 18 player game. (lynchproof counts for two you know).

Fuck, the five equivalent is already pushing the boundaries of what's balanced if not for hard to kill roles running around

you were the angrycat

do not dishonor his memory

[Mirdini]

Claimtimes, because if I'm random, I may as well just eat the kill.
Yeah, I'm a cop.
Beru's the last scum, Inox is town, I checked him last night.

I have no N1 check because I apparently had to be an animal from the start of the night so that I could use my MYSTICAL WOMBAT powers of telepathy to detect evil.

oh yeah before we follow PLAN ALPHA (which is a good plan) you might not have had a N1 check but what happened to your N2 check. and then I guess your N4 check.

[Mirdini]

oh, wait, you weren't an animal so no N4 check. still leaves your N2 check.

[seastormjt]

oh yeah before we follow PLAN ALPHA (which is a good plan) you might not have had a N1 check but what happened to your N2 check. and then I guess your N4 check.

N1 = Not an animal at the beginning of the night
N2 = Beru => Not town
N3 = Inox => Town
N4 = People hammered while I was sleeping so I couldn't animal myself and check someone arbitrarily.

Vote: Beru
Elect: Dini, I guess, though I'd like a crystal or two if you can spare them (one left; planning on using it tonight).

[Solaris]

give only crystal to seastorm

[armoredSkunk]

I think I must be misunderstanding something here. If we lynch bears and she is the last mafia player, then the game ends right?

(bear with me for a second, I'm having crazy-thoughts)

[Solaris]

I think I must be misunderstanding something here. If we lynch bears and she is the last mafia player, then the game ends right?

(bear with me for a second, I'm having crazy-thoughts)

yes and mirdini loses but she isnt the last mafia so we are lynching her later

[armoredSkunk]

But see, that's what I'm trying to say. There are three paths that this is liable to take imo.

a)somehow bears is town. tomorrow we are stuck with 6 people. If there is only one mafia left, that still is (two3p, onescum, threetown) But if there are two, then there are two of each. Seastorm would probably be scum in this scenario, based on her inno check on Inox and her scum check on beru. We lynch her maybe?
a1)seastorm is last scum, game ends
a2)seastorm is scum, but game continues. 4 people, only one town left. Bad.
a3)seastorm is town. 4 players, with one town tops. Bad

b)bears is the last scum. Game over. *best scenario*

c)bears is scum but not the last. 6 people, with maybe three town, two 3p, and one mafia? But that makes a four-man scum team with three 3p, which acio has said would be really unbalanced. BUT maybe a four-man scum with only two 3p is better? This entertains the idea that somehow Dini is scumteam and not 3p. Not as likely, but...

If we purposely mislynch today then these scenarios get pushed back to fewer players. The only situation where this results in a town win is if bears is the last scum. I think this is a pretty risky gamble, with (depending on how this plays out) potential scum in over half of our current remaining players.
This works with exchanging people out, as well. I'm not convinced I got what I am trying to say across accurately, or if I am even making since, but there you go.

[Solaris]

okay
vote me now
because you are wrong

[armoredSkunk]

addendum, town doesn't immediately lose from a mislynch today, but what I meant is that there are too many possible candidates to make it "safe".

And how am I wrong?

[Solaris]

because there is no question that this game is not over

like this game is over here's how it goes:

we lynch Solaris today. some townie dies in the night. Down to 6 players.

We lynch beruru tomorrow. some townie dies in the night. Down to 4 players.

I turn everyone into an animal, leave the game, down to 3 players.

The remaining two lynch watts who is the last scum.

everyone's happy.

this is 100% correct and foolproof
anything else is wrong

[armoredSkunk]

except that relies primarily on bears and/or watts being our scumteam and that is only one possiblility

if we're wrong we just backed ourselves into a corner :/