Choose Your Flavor Mafia: GAME USURPED. (town win, PRIME INTELLECT win)

[Mirdini]

Elect: Mirdini

because apparently my role has to do with crystals and I never even knew it.

but now I do

woop woop sorry para dini wants cancercrystals now

fuckin' animals.

also tea you uh counterclaimed town protective iirc

that doesn't seem too likely atm?

and you just flipped back on Cat after crystalshenanigans happened for pretty much no reason as far as I can see?

but then again I've had to skim from p6 to p10 in 10 minutes and now I've got to go

SO NO VOTE FOR NOW (but I do want crystals now apparently) will make one happen when I get back.

[Mirdini]

EBWOPnote: First part means I went to sleep after last post, woke up to find animals overrunning thread, realized that was what certain THINGS meant.

[Slayer0]

Unvote

[mr_y_not]

Elect para
Surrender all crystals in possesion but one to para
Pelt Teas face with a crystal

:0

[curiousCat]

show spoiler

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pffffffffff
hahaha
ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS GIVE EVERYONE HUGS

[Mister Visceral]

I don't know if Tea's getting-off-Cat makes me like him less or more after the flip.

I feel like a lot of useless science'ing is going to happen, with and because of crystals.

Buh... buh buh.

Vote: Tea again because town-Cat and extreme weirdness.

[Mister Visceral]

WAIT NEVERMIND I'M DUMB

Unvote because Tea is probably non-animal doctor e_e

[Laset]

Tea is an animal again! Para is given *4* crystals!

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Sotek's official lynch vote tally. Please remember to specify all votes in bold!
17 voters, therefore 9 is majority and 9 is deadlock
Abstaining: 17 (50,000 UNSTOPPABLE WATTS!, A Killer Cuppa Tea, Acionyx, ArmoredSkunk, Crilly, Garuru, InoxFy, Kieros, Mirdini, Red709, Seastormjt, absoluteCertainty, mr_y_not, soundlyParanoid, x1372, Slayer0, MisterVisceral)
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Sotek's official crystal-getter vote tally. Please remember to specify all votes in bold!
17 voters, therefore 9 is majority and 9 is deadlock
soundlyParanoid: 4 (A Killer Cuppa Tea, soundlyParanoid, absoluteCertainty, mr_y_not)
Mirdini: 1 (Mirdini)
Abstaining: 12 (50,000 UNSTOPPABLE WATTS!, Acionyx, ArmoredSkunk, Crilly, Garuru, InoxFy, Kieros, MisterVisceral, Red709, Seastormjt, Slayer0, x1372)
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Remember, your deadline is in like three days. GET VOTIN' AGAIN.

Slayer0, Soundly Paranoid, A Killer Cuppa Tea, and Garuru are animals.

[mr_y_not]

Could someone like, track where the crystals have gone?

Because if someone dies and gives their crystals to the killer...

[Crilly]

Could someone like, track where the crystals have gone?

Because if someone dies and gives their crystals to the killer...

This is why the plan doesn't work, because it only takes one person to die for scum/vig/sk to get like 10+ crystals now.

ALSO SOTEK WHY WOULD YOU HAVE CRYSTALS DO THIS NO ONE IS PAYING ATTENTION TO THE GAME IT'S NOW CRYSTALFIA.

(also silencing is blah)

[Mister Visceral]

Paranoia - The random election of Paranoia is weird, but I actually think that it makes him more town? I can't see mafia doing this so blatantly with their partner. Looking back at his interactions with Tea, a town flip for Tea would make Para look bad because of voting with little reason. So under the assumption that Tea is a legitimate town doktorr, Para looks pretty scummy (see page 2 & 3). Oh would you look at that Post 200. Reason-barren electfishing and what looks like role-fishing all in one post. Eeewwwwww LYNCH IT WITH FIRE.
~ATH - Weird shit from this guy. First he makes a half-assed attack at me and then retracts it saying "lol whoops didn't read". Otherwise has just been really weird and fidgety. Scummy/3p read.
A Killer Cuppa Tea - Now that Cat is confirmed town, Tea's actions have actually seemed a lot more reasonable and justified. I also can't imagine there only being an animal doctor without a normal one, so I'm inclined to believe that Tea is town. Tea, can you protect animals or only people?
mr_y_not - Light townread on him, but mostly null. One thing confuses me, though. You said you didn't get any crystals, and then you gave all but one to Para. I'm assuming you meant that nobody gave you crystals. But if not, clarify!
Crilly - Post #111 is weird and doesn't explain. I was thinking about the same thing around the time, but... I tried to give at least crappy explanations. Your vote on him was devoid of such. :/ He then goes on to give some pretty good points on Tea, though. So the earlier vote doesn't look as bad. Doesn't do anything else damning, bluh bluh. Townread.
Mirdini - Doesn't do much outside the Tea wagon, as he made points that I generally agreed with. But then he just comes in and goes "oh wait I have a PR that uses crystals gimme", similar to what Para did that I didn't like. Bluh read.
Slayer0 - /flipsout in vote #73 about my vote on Kieros that was pretty obviously RVS. At least in my opinion it was. Then proceeds to do nothing else special except make me feel inexplicably uncomfortable because of FIDGETINESS and WEIRDNESS. Slight scum read.
Watts - Comes in, gets on my case, then leaves for a while. Then comes back and mingles not-very-scummily. Performs a combo by being just as slightly scummy as Slayer and Mirdini.
Kieros - No weirdness at all. Hasn't said very much to make me think of him either way. Perfect nullread.
ArmoredSkunk Nak moar.
absoluteCertainty Same, but for you it's worse because you're usually more active. *GLAREEE* Beru hasn't nakked much in any of my games. :(
InoxFy - Makes a wall on me that's pretty weak and throws around terms like MULECOC that I don't even know what that stands for. :( His wall right after that seems a bit off, too. I don't like him very much today.
x1372 - NAK YE
Red709 - Has been pro-town the whole game and hasn't made me angry at him nearly as much as he usually does. After RVS-nanigans he seems alright.
Seastormjt - Looks pretty bad after Crillyvoting without reason and then bailing. I hope you explain yourself on Monday/Tuesday or whenever you come back. *glaarrreee*
Acionyx - Nak ye when ye can.

Vote Paranoia FO SHO

[mr_y_not]

Apparently everyone recieved 5 crystals.

[Kíeros]

Okay, after looking over, I don't like the whole Tea/MV exchange, but I really don't like Seastormjt. He's been in, and has been somewhat unhelpful, in my opinion.

PS: On crystal shenanigans, I might have a good suggestion, if Sotek is able to answer my question that I stumped him with.

[Red709]

fact 1: Everyone started with 5 crystals
fact 2: 18 x 5 = 90 crystals.
fact 3: Most roles are transformed into Animals, effectively silenced with the ability to post votes and actions only by having a crystal used on them
fact 4: Animals change back to normal when a crystal is used on them.
Fact 5: animals get a group qt.
fact 6: Certain roles (Currently Known: Inoxfy, Me) are NOT AFFECTED by crystals, and therefore cannot be silenced.
fact 7: Cat's role proves that crystals likely reverse or amplify certain roles. normally only capable of protecting animalized players, in animal form she could doc non-animaled players.
fact 8: Para and Dini both claim to have very good uses for their crystals.
fact 9: anyone killed in the night loses their crystals to their killer.
fact 10: the crystals of the person lynched, and the crystals of anyone daykilled that day, are elected to a player. In the event a majority is not reached, the mafia chooses who gets the crystals.
fact 11: crystals are a finite resource. There are a total of 90. we have used at least 10 by now, likely more.
fact 12: it is entirely possible for mafia to silence the entire town, minus those unaffected by crystals.
fact 13: Cat was in fact just daykilled. It was a pretty obvious anti-town daykill, since she claimed /PROTECTIVE/ and flipped such too.

First, elect Para
second, as of page 8:

Crystals publicly used:
2 by Crilly (he stopped after the first one)
1 by Tea
1 by curiousCat
1 by Red709
2 by soundlyParanoid.

CuriousCat and SoundlyParanoid have returned to their previous forms!

Since then:
Crilly used a crystal on tea (3)
Slayer broke one of his own crystals (1)
Tea used a second crystal (2)
Tilde and Inoxfy used a crystal each (1 each)
Tea gave all his crystals to cat (CC=4+3, Tea=0)
Crilly uses a fourth on tea (4)
Cat died (+7 to elect)

total crystals used:
90-4(crilly)-2(Tea)-2(para)-1(CC)-1(me)-1(inoxfy)-1(tilde)-1(slayer)=>90-13=77 crystals remaining

this is a thing.

NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS

aS still has not posted and I want them dead for it but not right now

FOS at anyone who's still dicking around with the crystals at this point, we have Three days left and this is a thing

[mr_y_not]

I threw a crystal at Tea's face. He is an animal.

[Acionyx]

I have just arrived and I saw 17/18 and then crystal nonsense and what


I'm probably immune to crystaling thanks to my role? If someone wants to test that it'd be nice to know

Now I have to figure out Wtf this game

[Crilly]

I have just arrived and I saw 17/18 and then crystal nonsense and what


I'm probably immune to crystaling thanks to my role? If someone wants to test that it'd be nice to know

Now I have to figure out Wtf this game

I throw a crystal at Acionyx.

[Laset]

Acionyx is unaffected by Crilly's crystal!


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Sotek's official lynch vote tally. Please remember to specify all votes in bold!
17 voters, therefore 9 is majority and 9 is deadlock
soundlyParanoid: 2 (MisterVisceral, Red709)
Seastormjt: 1 (Kieros)
Abstaining: 14 (50,000 UNSTOPPABLE WATTS!, A Killer Cuppa Tea, Acionyx, ArmoredSkunk, Crilly, Garuru, InoxFy, Mirdini, Seastormjt, absoluteCertainty, mr_y_not, soundlyParanoid, x1372, Slayer0)
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sotek@qeshna ~/documents/witchhunt/cyfia $ ./election.py
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Sotek's official crystal-getter vote tally. Please remember to specify all votes in bold!
17 voters, therefore 9 is majority and 9 is deadlock
soundlyParanoid: 4 (A Killer Cuppa Tea, soundlyParanoid, absoluteCertainty, mr_y_not)
Mirdini: 1 (Mirdini)
Abstaining: 12 (50,000 UNSTOPPABLE WATTS!, Acionyx, ArmoredSkunk, Crilly, Garuru, InoxFy, Kieros, MisterVisceral, Red709, Seastormjt, Slayer0, x1372)
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A Killer Cuppa Tea, Garuru, Slayer0, and SoundlyParanoid are animals.

[50,000 Unstoppable Watts!]

Seriously why do people keep silencing Tea.

Did he request this or what.

Sighhhh. This game.

People seem to be missing the part where, yes, Cat actually can doc non-animals, but only with proper application of crystalube. So that does not at all clear Tea and imo casts his claims in a wicked dubious light. Of course there's no sense pursuing it for now since lynching doc claims this early on is usually ill-advisable and SOMEBODY FREAKING SILENCED HIM.

If I might make a suggestion? That votals board is looking mighty empty for only three days left. Let's get this dog and pony (and cat) show back on the move.

Re-voting MV. He has only made me more suspicious since last I cast my vote. That wall is a whole lotta nothin' and the fact that he and his vote can't sit still Tea-wise is really twisting my boxer briefs.

[50,000 Unstoppable Watts!]

Also Sotes you have Red voting to lynch Para when he actually elected him.

[Mister Visceral]

Re-voting MV. He has only made me more suspicious since last I cast my vote. That wall is a whole lotta nothin' and the fact that he and his vote can't sit still Tea-wise is really twisting my boxer briefs.

Buh?! A whole lot of nothing? I voted for Para, whom nobody has done nothing but sheep. I put Dini into suspicion, something that almost never has happened in any of the games I've been in, I put Red down as town, something that I almost never do, I have over half of the playerlist in nullread or lower. A whole lot of nothing? Wrong.

As for "I can't sit still Tea-wise", I've already explained this. I'm pretty sure that a daykill mid-day is something that changes your opinion, especially with Cat turning out to be a doctor exclusive to only half of the players. It just makes sense to me that there would be another protective, and the reactions between Tea and Cat make so much more sense with them both being protective roles.

[Acionyx]

Currently on page eight and just starting the crystalfuck and noted something

People seem to be aware they have crystals? Because I don't seem to have any



PS I would be perfectly happy lynching tea or inox right now and unless he shows up to change my opinion I am still happy with my armoredskunk vote

[InoxFy]

I threw a crystal at Tea's face. He is an animal.

Out of context, that would be a very impolite thing to say.

In terms of real stuff...
I don't even know what is up with Tea.
But I've seen him fakeclaim so many times that I am not going to but his claim even if it had an 80% discount. All the things he's doing right now I've seen him do regardless of allignment. IDENK anymore when it comes to Tea.

I'm feeling closer to a-ok about Mistah Vistah after those rainbow reads. I can see where you're getting say, ~ATH or 50k.

Still, I disagree with a bunch of them. Most egregiously:
Your Crilly read... I'm not really seing where you got the townread from. At all.

And... I'm pretty sure your STRONGest scumread and the guy you're voting for is silenced right now. That seems kinda like a safe move, casting a big scumread on someone who ATM can't respond.

This might look like tunnel vision but let's be honest, you're the only one that's actually /doing/ stuff right now instead of screwing around with crystals, there's not a whole lot more to comment about.
Now that I think about it... that makes me feel better about you.
This is when I'd unvote, but votes were reset anyways.

[x1372]

Allright so apparently having one day away from this thread was a bad idea and everything has exploded out of the random vote stage into a huge freaking deal.

Really hoping I didn't get in over my head again here.

From the start of this game, I'm really not seeing where the Tea hate is coming from.

Really not trusting crystals to be ultimately helpful. Breaking them either releases their powers and activates them, or gets rid of them, preventing them from having any negative effects. Also, either way, it makes them less of a distraction from scumhunting, which election items nearly always are when we aren't dealing with reluctantly cleared players.

Dunno why people were up in cat's business early. I mean, a doc claim during RvS doesn't exactly count for anything whatsoever. Oh btw, I'm Cans.

The initial push on Red makes at least a little sense, based on his reactions. Not sure on his scumminess at all yet, but if I had a gun to my head and had to pick someone talkative to lynch, as of the start of page 5 it would be him.

Ok I really have to say I am NOT liking the people jumping on Tea here. Unless this was done solely to spark a reaction or start conversation, these votes are bad and you should feel bad. If any lynch train is to start, picking the talkative guy who is asking questions is about the last way I would want this to go, short of getting and lynching a townfirm.

Crilly and Visceral, I have my eye on you two. Flawed or not, the others have made valid reasons to be voting Tea early, neither of you have, and you need a valid reason to be going after one of the more talkative people on D1. By the end of page 5, I'd be voting one of you two for most likely scum.

...And tea makes a claim. Ugh. Didn't want that. Don't like that. This catching up thing isn't gonna be quite that painful for the rest I hope. I guess tea had so many votes on him this was necessary though.

Ok fuck this. lynch visceral. Your attacks on Tea, particularly on page 7, are just... bad. Even if tea is lynched and flips scum you look bad. There are always ways to defend yourself eh? I wouldn't mind seeing a practical demonstration from you.

Fuck this turned into a wall. Guess it has to be a TLDR at the end then, there's really not much other way to catch up when this much happens in one missed day.

Oh for fuck's sake. What is this crystal bullshit. Yeah, this needs to end. I'm not willing to deal wtih this for very long.



...

...

Let's just call this the TLDR then. Or at least the important stuff.

Ok. then. I'm going to elect x1372 for the crystals because I want them gone and destroyed.

As stated above, because of his incredibly scummy looking attacks on Tea, lynch visceral. You look like someone who saw an opportunity to get a quick lynch in and doggedly was hurrying us to go through with it as soon as possible, even after a claim. And yes, if you are town, you SHOULD give a fuck about D1 votes and arguments, since its a reasonable starting point for identifying and catching scum, which is your FREAKING JOB. And enough with the animated gifs, it makes it very hard to take anything you say seriously at all.

Lay all 5 crystals out in a small pile in front of me, then smash all 5 at once with a giant freaking hammer

[50,000 Unstoppable Watts!]

Buh?! A whole lot of nothing? I voted for Para, whom nobody has done nothing but sheep. I put Dini into suspicion, something that almost never has happened in any of the games I've been in, I put Red down as town, something that I almost never do, I have over half of the playerlist in nullread or lower. A whole lot of nothing? Wrong.

Oh god defending with meta. I know I've been gone a while but I'm pretty sure we still don't do that ever if we want to live.

As for "I can't sit still Tea-wise", I've already explained this. I'm pretty sure that a daykill mid-day is something that changes your opinion, especially with Cat turning out to be a doctor exclusive to only half of the players. It just makes sense to me that there would be another protective, and the reactions between Tea and Cat make so much more sense with them both being protective roles.

Again, that is not how Cat works. Or worked. Or would have worked. She is exclusive to no one, she just has a human-animal switch on her power. I don't want to believe Sotek would put two docs in any game.

PS I would be perfectly happy lynching tea or inox right now

A guy who's unable to speak and a guy who's actually talking.

Oooo k.