[TF2] Thread 10! Server back up

[MESIAS_ROCKET]

Well, here are the final results of my science spree.

While I like this one, but the only think I have now is a halloween engie bag mask. :c

[forkinyoureye]

Just got a Strange Backburner! Heh heh!

See, I can't use the regular Backburner, because then people will go "eww unskilled pyro w+m1 l2p ftp bbq" and I will go "YES IT IS ALL TRUE" and press P which is bound to explode.

But if I use the strange Backburner, when someone says "nub pyroe" I can reply "Nope.avi! I need to get kills on it, so I have to use it instead of the vastly superior Degreaser " and then I will run around shooting fire everywhere and cackling like a madman.

Just as planned.

Backburner can actually require more skill than the Degreaser. I've started to use it from time to time myself after seeing this insane BB pyro go apeshit on the PF2 servers.

[Namboto]

I have some 500 kills on my BB, so yeah, it's not too terrible. I have two preset pyro loadouts: puff+sting+rakist and BB+shotty+rakist. The first is for general play (I've been working on aim and airblasting) and the second is for when there's other pyros to be hunted (I need to use that one more).

Sure it lowers my survivability a bit when not near healthpacks, but I still like the rake for its crit rate and being useful even when enemies aren't on fire.

[MESIAS_ROCKET]

Sometimes I see people with strange Sydney Sleeper with 15k kills. It makes me a little sad inside.

Sad?
Why sad?
That is awesome!

[_Quietus_]

No real man
Uses a sydney sleeper
It's a weapon for neophytes

If I still had a BB I think I might try it out
Thing is with the backburner, is that people never really try to get the crits, hence w+m1

[youdont12know]

Mr Tie, is that strangesouthern hospitality still in your possesion? If so, could you perchance be persueded to swap it's ownership with me?

[MESIAS_ROCKET]

Speak for yourself _Quietus_. Sydney Sleeper is a harder weapon to master than it looks.
But hey, I respect your opinion anyways.

[MIster Scurvy]

I'm in love with the equalizer.

[Mr.Tie]

Mr Tie, is that strangesouthern hospitality still in your possesion? If so, could you perchance be persueded to swap it's ownership with me?

Most certainly, I pretty much update the list as it goes, so if it's not barred, still something left.

ALSO, turns out I got 2 strange étranger out there, if anyone wants that

[_Quietus_]

Speak for yourself _Quietus_. Sydney Sleeper is a harder weapon to master than it looks.
But hey, I respect your opinion anyways.

Ahahahah
Heheheheh

[forkinyoureye]

The thing about the Sleeper is that it's one of those weapons that changes a class's role. Instead of being a precision long-distance killing instrument, you become more of a support class, shooting enemies that your team is attacking and such.

[Chirality]

Sydney Sleeper is just suboptimal compared to a rifle that can headshot. If you spent so long playing sniper that you got 15000 kills with a sydney sleeper, odds are you can play even better with the other rifles. That's the sad thing.

[forkinyoureye]

Sydney Sleeper is just suboptimal compared to a rifle that can headshot. If you spent so long playing sniper that you got 15000 kills with a sydney sleeper, odds are you can play even better with the other rifles. That's the sad thing.

This too.

[Catbread]

But two kills, two jarateed enemies, and a miss is a lot better than four misses and a shot in the torso for 50 damage!

[forkinyoureye]

But three headshots and a miss is better than two kills and two jarate'd enemies.

[Lazyboy21350]

Well sometimes, just going around and pissing on people so hard that they die is fun.

[Catbread]

But three headshots and a miss is better than two kills and two jarate'd enemies.

That's true, but the odds of getting a headshot are much, much lower than the odds of getting a bodyshot.

[The Dr.]

Not if you know how to play sniper

[Catbread]

Not if you know how to play sniper

But what if you don't? In that case, the Sleeper is easily the better...

I should just let this one go shouldn't I

grumble grumble stupid game

[Bandages]

having good mouse accuracy isn't really part of being a good sniper, you are just a good sniper if you have insane mouse accuracy

Hence why my friends who play Starcraft 2 are often terrible at actually doing anything with the sniper other than staying put and headshotting their way to the top of the scoreboard

[Shroomsy]

But two kills, two jarateed enemies, and a miss is a lot better than four misses and a shot in the torso for 50 damage!

True, you have to be good to a point with the vanilla rifle before you can reap the benefits. Stuff like being able to snap to a Medic and headshot him to cripple a push or hold your own against Soldiers/Demos at midrange are huge perks that the Sydney Sleeper can't match. You can also hold your own against other Snipers who use the vanilla rifle and have a much higher chance of killing them. That might seem trivial, but if the other team's sniper(s) are good enough to cause real damage to your team it's a very good advantage to have.

If you want to use the Sydney Sleeper for fun, there's no problem with that. If you want to be credit to team and pick off high-priority targets so the rest of your team doesn't have to, go with the stock rifle.

[TMBGFan]

Part of the problem with the Sydney Sleeper is that it's often used in the exact same way as the stock rifle which isn't a very good thing to do.
The jarate effect should be used to attack enemies who your team is already attacking.

2 kills and 2 jarates seems par with 3 kills 1 miss to me, because the people you jarated are either going to die from other attacks or run and find a medkit.



Also, a bodyshot kills like 6 out of 9 classes at full health.




I think the Sydney Sleeper is a good sidegrade to the stock rifle.

[forkinyoureye]

I did mention the attacking things your team is already attacking.

Anyway, there's a chance the jarate'd enemies might not die. They might get away, they might be getting healed by a Medic, whatever. So I'd sorta count that as a half of a kill, if not less.

Yes, the Sleeper is a good sidegrade, but I for one prefer the regular.

[Henry Spencer]

I only use the Sleeper because I thought up a clever name/desc for it.

[billybobfred]

Alright, as my LAST key spree (which makes me feel shame).... here's what you can get for FREE (unless you can't live with yourself with getting it free)

Ooh, a strange Half-Zatoichi!

... And if we're allowed to claim multiple items, I'll take a Fist and a Loch-n-Load as well.