[TF2] Thread 10! Server back up

[ArmsAreLoud]

OR it has been reflected back at your medic and ruined the uber he was about to pop.

I have been the cause of that numerous times.

[Chirality]

Being a terrible player, a random crit rocket has saved me and my team numerous times.

My point is just that it's too random and infrequent to really give a fighting chance.

[_Quietus_]

A 2% chance of firing a crit scattergun shot makes the game more playable against people who know their shit? I don't think so.

That's why I'm punching biznasty why the rest of you are trying to get crits

Oh wait... I guess I'm getting crit punches...

[Jit]

If people are getting pissed when they die to a crit, then they should really calm down.

I don't think it's that big of a deal.

[ArmsAreLoud]

We have the option to turn them off.

I prefer to have them off.

[Shroomsy]

If people are getting pissed when they die to a crit, then they should really calm down.

I don't think it's that big of a deal.

It's not a big deal to someone who dies often, because it's just one more death out of several that happens to come sooner rather than later. If you're getting kills and staying alive because you're playing well enough to avoid death, it can be frustrating to die to a crit all of a sudden. You might have been having a great run where you captured everything and killed a lot of dudes, but then a stroke of bad luck came along and now you have to sit in respawn.

The feeling of getting jerked around like that by something you can't control is more frustrating to some than others.

[Portalboat]

You did an excellent job explaining that, Shroomsy.

[_Quietus_]

But a critical kill is impossible to accomplish without a direct hit, or a very weak target

I think valve added crits so that when someone dies, they have a scapegoat for their shortcomings.

Also, turning off crits isn't at all the same as turning off luck

Either way, if someone's running around doing well, they should at no means feel cheated or feel like they're spending too much time dead

[ArmsAreLoud]

You're right, you have to turn off random damage spread too.

[Mr.Tie]

What about that thing that makes shotgun shots perfectly square? (don't put that on... it's.... difficult to fight shotguns)

and here's a few more fancier, perhaps, stranges to offer for whatever price you put.
Rocket launcher, stickybomb launcher, wrench, flare gun, and the almighty Razorback....
oh and a powerjack for Nambato

[Bandages]

What about that thing that makes shotgun shots perfectly square? (don't put that on... it's.... difficult to fight shotguns)

and here's a few more fancier, perhaps, stranges to offer for whatever price you put.
Rocket launcher, stickybomb launcher, wrench, flare gun, and the almighty Razorback....
oh and a powerjack for Nambato

My soul for that rocket launcher

(or anything you want)

[Mr.Tie]

My soul for that rocket launcher

(or anything you want)

alright, I can never remember who you are on steam, but let's do that.

oh I also have 2 other spares rocket launcher

[forkinyoureye]

alright, I can never remember who you are on steam, but let's do that.

oh I also have 2 other spares rocket launcher

He's Autothysis.

And that last bit's a tad difficult to understand. Are you saying that you have two spare rocket launchers that weren't mentioned up there? Because I'd totally love one if that's the case.

[Mr.Tie]

He's Autothysis.

And that last bit's a tad difficult to understand. Are you saying that you have two spare rocket launchers that weren't mentioned up there? Because I'd totally love one if that's the case.

yes, that's the case, and you can have one of course

[Red709]

I'll throw in for the sticky launcher or flaregun

as far as the whole crits thing - ehh, whatever

Really, I don't care if they're on or off - half the actually good weapons in the game don't get random crits or cause crits automatically on their own - but they're as likely to save you from an untimely or unlucky death as cause it

[-Benedict]

So guys remember how 2fort was a terrible map where it's possible for an engineer to hole up in the other team's intel room and prevent them from capping for like six minutes? That is totally still the case.

[Gilo000]

I will gladly take that wrench off your hands. At least, if I have anything valuable left in my backpack.

[Mr.Tie]

So guys remember how 2fort was a terrible map where it's possible for an engineer to hole up in the other team's intel room and prevent them from capping for like six minutes? That is totally still the case.

Psh, imagine 2 engies and a pyro with homewrecker down there, thought that's more easily done as a defense for the team own intel.

I kinda forgot about go defend their intel room strategy

[Shroomsy]

What about that thing that makes shotgun shots perfectly square? (don't put that on... it's.... difficult to fight shotguns)

and here's a few more fancier, perhaps, stranges to offer for whatever price you put.
Rocket launcher, stickybomb launcher, wrench, flare gun, and the almighty Razorback....
oh and a powerjack for Nambato

If you've still got the Flare Gun, i'm interested in trading for it.

[ArmsAreLoud]

Psh, imagine 2 engies and a pyro with homewrecker down there, thought that's more easily done as a defense for the team own intel.

I kinda forgot about go defend their intel room strategy

Technically one good ubercharged demo can still just wipe the floor with them but

It's 2fort

Who wants to play medic on fucking 2fort

[Jolts]

Who wants to play 2Fort ever? Besides the fact that a few engineers hold up the match intefinitely, there's no health on the map so you have to keep on going back to the spawn room and it's impossible to get out of the moat from anywhere other than the tunnels. I know it's designed that way, but it's frustrating how a misplaced jump can slow down your game by insane amounts.

[Warriorccc0]

pl_2fort is fun, but that's about it.

[ArmsAreLoud]

2Fort is an abomination.

That's pretty much all there is to it.

Really most of the original maps are bad.

[_Quietus_]

Is it just me?
Or does everyone just HATE Ctf maps
Except well I guess
I'm pretty sure everyone's cool with well

You know what I like? Arena

[ArmsAreLoud]

Turbine can be fun as long as you just ban wrenchgineers. Or just frag it up in mid and ignore the objective completely. Turbine Pro is better, more space to move is always better. You're right, Well is cool.

Arena is a lot of fun with the right people and in small doses.