IDE/Theory Thread 24: The Pink Moon's moon is Io

[ardentApathy]

GUYS GUYS GUYS.

No Reckoning means no Exiles.

Not only do they not have the means to get there in the first place, but there are no meteors delivering their exile stations! Jane didn't have one, so her client player has no station!

THERE WILL BE NO NEW EXILES GIVING DIRECTIONS TO OUR FOUR HEROES.

I JUST REALIZED THIS.

and i am sad.

sigh.

I really hope this one gets debunked.

[mysteriousOutsider]

There's that dude with the crowbar. He's guaranteed to become integral to the plot.

[safetyboots]

No Reckoning means no Exiles.

Are you sure? We have the players.

[ardentApathy]

There's that dude with the crowbar. He's guaranteed to become integral to the plot.

IDE: "This one's for biscuits, see? Nyeah."

[Legendary]

Are you sure? We have the players.

They came from B1's reckoning. B2 has no Reckoning. Further, B1's exile stations were, as I stated, delivered by the four meteors aimed at the four players. This is why the Bec station came in pieces: Because Bec blew it up with the meteor. This is why the Egg station came in two parts: Because Bro cut it in half. Rose's and John's meteors were normal, so the apple and bottle stations were fine.

Jane had no meteor. Thus, she has no exile terminal. This is further reflected in the way that her tree had no growth by which an exile station could be designed.

[safetyboots]

They came from B1's reckoning. B2 has no Reckoning.

I know. Their Frog Temple is also from B1's Reckoning, right? Why it would be different for the Exiles?

[ardentApathy]

They came from B1's reckoning. B2 has no Reckoning. Further, B1's exile stations were, as I stated, delivered by the four meteors aimed at the four players. This is why the Bec station came in pieces: Because Bec blew it up with the meteor. This is why the Egg station came in two parts: Because Bro cut it in half. Rose's and John's meteors were normal, so the apple and bottle stations were fine.

Jane had no meteor. Thus, she has no exile terminal. This is further reflected in the way that her tree had no growth by which an exile station could be designed.

She had no meteor? I thought I recall an impending meteor collision, similar to the EOA1. Or am I just imagining things?

[mysteriousOutsider]

Yep. There was no meteor, only a certain huge red battleship.

[safetyboots]

She had no meteor? I thought I recall an impending meteor collision, similar to the EOA1. Or am I just imagining things?

It was Her Imperious Condescension's flagship.

All of a sudden, ninjas.

[Legendary]

I know. Their Frog Temple is also from B1's Reckoning, right? Why it would be different for the Exiles?

No. Their Frog Temple is from their own session, to be launched by means unknown. Rose explains that in her recent exposition. If the Frog Temple from B1 was there, we would have a Frog Temple with four pillars with Jack Noir inside. This would be awful.

Further, even if WV, WQ, AR, and PM were duplicated, they have no exile stations. That is the point. Jane had no meteor. Thus, she has no exile station. Thus, even if a Prospitan or Dersite showed up at her house 413 years into the future, there would be no way for them to interact with Jane's client player, be that Jake or Roxy. From that, we can assume that none of the kids will have meteors (suggested by Rose but not explicitly confirmed) and that as a result there will be no exile stations. Thus, no exile shenanigans. And this is sad.

Characters like WV, WQ, AR, and PM are not ruled out as possibly existing in the B2 session. We've seen WQ, so we know she's around. The only reason the other three wouldn't exist is if they specifically spawn once the Battlefield evolves. I will assume that at the very least, AR and PM will exist no matter what. Not sure about WV though.

[mysteriousOutsider]

There's going to be a WV in that session no matter what.

Maybe he could meet himself.

[safetyboots]

Understood. Thanks for the explanation, Legendary.

Thus, no exile shenanigans. And this is sad.

The Veil. What if someone uses the terminals there?

Also, Roxy's laboratory is very similar to the Exile's Stations.

[Hytheter]

GUYS GUYS GUYS.

No Reckoning means no Exiles.

Is that so?
You may have a point about the stations... though frankly I don't really care myself.

[Legendary]

I am aware about those guys. But we know that carapaces can be exiled without being an Exile in the same way that WV, WQ, AR, PM, SS, CD, DD, HB, and BQ were. WK, for example. Or WQ's entourage. Or yes, those Dersites. Fun people, all of them. And yet, they'll never influence the kids.

[LMLYP]

GUYS GUYS GUYS.

No Reckoning means no Exiles.

Not only do they not have the means to get there in the first place, but there are no meteors delivering their exile stations! Jane didn't have one, so her client player has no station!

THERE WILL BE NO NEW EXILES GIVING DIRECTIONS TO OUR FOUR HEROES.

I JUST REALIZED THIS.

and i am sad.

Roxy's laboratory looks suspiciously like a command station. The dersite with the crowbar is probably postscratch WV, exiled for participation in Dirk's rebellion.

We'll get a definite answer after we see Jane in the medium. If there are no exiles, I wonder if UU can command her?

EDIT: ok i know im late, but im officially jumpin on board the "trolls' meteor slams into the temple's seed and propels it through a portal" theory, because billiards symbolism. (their arrival in the incipisphere being equated with the break is ominous imo)

[Vanymstorm]

Jane had no meteor. Thus, she has no exile terminal. This is further reflected in the way that her tree had no growth by which an exile station could be designed.

Okay, just FYI, if it'll make anyone feel better, they really only need the terminals. Not the whole stations, and certainly not the meteors that would normally carry them. In fact, they theoretically only need one.

Also:

No. Their Frog Temple is from their own session, to be launched by means unknown. Rose explains that in her recent exposition.

[cyberHeroine]

Just because this session has no Reckoning, it doesn't mean the defence portals don't work. And as we saw in B1, not all of the exiles or their terminals came via the Reckoning.

[d2r123]

Roxy's laboratory looks suspiciously like a command station. The dersite with the crowbar is probably postscratch WV, exiled for participation in Dirk's rebellion.

We'll get a definite answer after we see Jane in the medium. If there are no exiles, I wonder if UU can command her?

EDIT: ok i know im late, but im officially jumpin on board the "trolls' meteor slams into the temple's seed and propels it through a portal" theory, because billiards symbolism. (their arrival in the incipisphere being equated with the break is ominous imo)

Why does the frog temple even need to be delivered? Oh, right, the code.
IDE: The code was delivered by the fish lady and stolen by roxy/dirk/jane/jake.

[Stormspirit]

Just because this session has no Reckoning, it doesn't mean the defence portals don't work. And as we saw in B1, not all of the exiles or their terminals came via the Reckoning.

There's only the Writ Keeper and the Windswept Questant who have evidence of an alternate mean, and they are both royalty. WV was sent down with the Prospitian Battleship, PM hasn't been shown and AR was brought to Earth with a meteor from the Reckoning. And as far as we know, the portals only activate when the Reckoning starts; the portals are clearly visible, and they weren't present during the multiple appearance of Skaia before the Reckoning.

[Mr_Smitt]

IDE: Either the next sub-act or the one after will not return to the Alpha kids, but will instead begin with introductions to UU and uu.

[Ace of Dark-Hearts]

IDE: Either the next sub-act or the one after will not return to the Alpha kids, but will instead begin with introductions to UU and uu.

Gosh I hope so. I want to meet them as soon as possible so I can draw them being adorable together.

[InvertedVoid]

Okay, I think I pretty much figured out how to nix multisessionperuniverse theory.
Unless earth is covered in volcanoes in Homestuck, there's only one forge.


WK can't be exiled this time, CD killed him.


I think the Skaian defense portals just open on reaction to any meteor, regardless of whether or not that meteor is part of the reckoning.



We've introduced two characters per sub-act so far, UU and uu would be really nice to meet. And I want to see the front of UU's shirt and see if it has that caduceus-ish thing on it or something that actually looks like a troll symbol.
Also hoping Lord English gets an introduction page. >Be the flashy green text guy.



IDE: Derse's moon ends up falling to Skaia and ends up being the source of all of those exiles in the Lab. Complete with the chain being cut along the same diagonal it always is.

[Legendary]

Unless earth is covered in volcanoes in Homestuck, there's only one forge.

Gosh yeah cause we only have two or three I never thought of it that way.

[cyberHeroine]

Okay, I think I pretty much figured out how to nix multisessionperuniverse theory.

Too late, it's already been confirmed.

[Juju]

Gosh yeah cause we only have two or three I never thought of it that way.

Heh, nice. Looking through that list, i think I might have founds Jade's island;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saunder...ndwich_Islands