IDE/Theory Thread 24: The Pink Moon's moon is Io

[Blaperile]

IDE/Theory: Act 7 will consist of only one page, a flash that shows every character and what they're up to after the game, ultimately solving any plotline still hanging, a bit like the epilogue to Problem Sleuth.

[LMLYP]

I think this dreambubble Dirk is a self-aware memory or something.

really? i think its more likely that his dreamself flew off and physically entered a bubble. dd implied that he left derse after delivering his message; he probably went to fetch roxy.

that, or he's dreaming in the future, after his dreamself dies.

[avolitionalArtisan]

Uuuhm.

I don't see why it's being assumed that everyone involved in a certain memory needs to actually be in the dreambubble for that memory to be viewed.
Because, you know, if so that would mean the amount of memories you can view as a dead person would be significantly lowered if you're the only dead person you know.

Which does not seem terribly practical.

I think the characters in a memory who do neat have any dead dreamselves are just being auto filled in from the memory of the dreaming person.

[Branetheory]

So far every being that has spoken/communicated with another being in a dreambubble has been dead/dreaming. We have yet to see a speaking being in a dreambubble that was merely a figment of someone's imagination. I doubt this dream will break the pattern.

[LMLYP]

its definitely possible; dad and spidermom showed up in john and vriska's dreambubble, and john complained about "being alone in my own memory, talking to figments of my imagination"

but imho its pretty boring if two main characters are conversing on-screen and one of them turns out to be just a memory! unless that has some emotional value (which this conversation doesn't).

[Sparrowsmith]

Dirk is either dreaming with his dreamself dead, dreaming once god tier, or just plain dead.
Why do people forget that dreambubbles aren't working on linear time?

It also doesn't even have to be Dirk, going by the Vriska/Terezi psych out we had earlier.

So to conclude, we currently know jack shit.

[Tayo23]

Well.

Looks like I was right for once.

[Tenebrais]

Looks like you are.

Still not gonna be a solo dream bubble though.

[Doom Zero]

Looks like you are.

Still not gonna be a solo dream bubble though.

Why not? The branch seems to be a bit of a hint, but we could very easily not have another person enter.

I'm sorta just sitting here wishing we could keep having regular updates that stay focused on the B2 kids.

[The_Unoriginal]

Andrew was never being controlled by Vriska. It was the Condesce doing that.

[simon.clarkstone]

I just had it pointed out how dreambubbles are combining more and more.

IDE: This will be significant. They will form one super-dreambubble that is/has always been slaughtering the NCoHT, traps LE, becomes a new universe, and leaves everyone's breath minty-fresh.

[Mpete]

hmmm, http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003722
ide: dave will make memos
and how did jake know about pages and heart, that dirk was a part of his mind

[cyberHeroine]

We already know that all players of Sburb have information locked in their subconscious, like the genetic codes. It's not too much of a leap to imagine that they could unlock much of that through dream-bubble conversations, even technically one-sided conversations with mental constructs representing friends who wouldn't have that information either.

[LMLYP]

continuing a discussion from the simple questions thread:

i'm certain that gamzee's Warhammer of Zillyhoo is the original one. he could've inherited it from his ancestor like vriska and eridan -- we still haven't heard about the summoner's rebellion; maybe we'll see the grand highblood swinging the warhammer around? or maybe gamzee got it from his denizen like dave and jade.

all the original* weapons are being brought to the new session, where rose will copy their codes into her journal, which finds its way into UU's hands. (wait 'til she complains about her brother drawing dicks in her books.) UU reads the codes to jake etc. etc. as exposited in-story.

* except for ahab's crosshairs. equius broke the original, but jade made a duplicate; it's being carried by an iguana aboard the prospitian battleship.

[cyberHeroine]

UU likely doesn't know enough about human anatomy to complain about that. But the rest does seem pretty plausible.

[Storm980]

Even thought this has nothing to do with current talk,

I think in the future it may be possible that Hussie goes more in-depth on Hivebent and the Ancestors

Maybe even making their own full length stories?

[fractalVacancy]

Theory: Memory!Dirk's apparent self-awareness is probably due to a combination of Dirk being a Heart hero (splintered self, messing with souls and junk) and Jake being a Page (untapped potential, allowing him to remember things he has no right to know consciously). The question is whether Dirk will at some point acquire a descriptor beginning with A so we once again have far too many ADs running around.

IDE: Heirs and Pages are active/passive counterparts. We've only ever seen John use his Breath powers in a fairly blunt-force way - hurricane to put out a planetwide inferno, tornado to drill into the Battlefield, gusts to make a car fly. He's used the powers to be helpful, but the powers themselves haven't actually been used in a directly-aiding fashion (I imagine this would be something like giving Jade's bullets a tailwind to make them fly faster, or a windy shield to guard people). Unless I've got the wrong end of the stick entirely in thinking of passive classes as party-buffers.

[ICEE]

Perhaps Jake's got these memories from his prescratch self? It's possible that grandpa's travels would have led him to discover dream bubbles, or lore indicating dream bubbles exist.

[Storm980]

I thought at first Dirk was out in the Furthest Ring, as he was seen looking at it in [S] Prince of Heart: Rise Up

So possibly he found Jakes Dream Bubble?

But then he outright stated that he was jsut a projection of Jake's mind....

[Reecer6]

IDE/Theory: Jake is Nic Cage

[EldritchElysium]

SO THAT WAS THE PLAN ALL ALONG???
GT: TO GIVE ME A BONER???
TT: And you
TT: ...
TT: ...
TT: ...
TT: ...
TT: Got one.

TT: But even if they did manage to confront her, there was no way they could win. She had too many crazy alien powers.
TT: Her boss supposedly had jacked her power level through the roof. I even heard, and don't quote me on this, that she may have been over 9000.
GT: Heavens to betsy.
GT: That figure is just absurd.
TT: Yeah.
TT: And that's not even to speak of the generic smorgasbord of other powers she was rumored to have.
TT: It gets hard to separate the fact from the urban myth.
TT: But for reference, if you want to believe it all, just picture all the X-Men combined into one sexy fish woman in a skin tight suit.

IDE/Theory: These string of flat jokes, that feel off with the dialogue and Hussie's usual writing-style are some sort of subtle nudging that Lord English, after killing self-insert Hussie, has started to influence or effect the plot or narrative in some way different than before, that will slowly become more and more evident as time progresses.

[OrangeAipom]

Sufferer is a tsundere.

"F-F-FUCKASS. IT'S NOT LIKE I HATE YOU OR ANYTHING."

[FowlJ]

UU likely doesn't know enough about human anatomy to complain about that. But the rest does seem pretty plausible.

Trolls know what dicks are. Karkat talks about it at some point during one of his rants. Hell if I can find the exact conversation, though.

[OrangeAipom]

Trolls know what dicks are. Karkat talks about it at some point during one of his rants. Hell if I can find the exact conversation, though.

CG: OK I DON'T SEE HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE BECOMING FRIENDS IF YOU RECOIL FROM MY OLIVE BRANCH LIKE I'M WIGGLING A GNARLED TREE MONSTER'S DICK IN YOUR DIRECTION.

Trees have dicks. Trolls, however, do not.

[Tayo23]

Theory: Memory!Dirk's apparent self-awareness is probably due to a combination of Dirk being a Heart hero (splintered self, messing with souls and junk) and Jake being a Page (untapped potential, allowing him to remember things he has no right to know consciously). The question is whether Dirk will at some point acquire a descriptor beginning with A so we once again have far too many ADs running around.

IDE: Heirs and Pages are active/passive counterparts. We've only ever seen John use his Breath powers in a fairly blunt-force way - hurricane to put out a planetwide inferno, tornado to drill into the Battlefield, gusts to make a car fly. He's used the powers to be helpful, but the powers themselves haven't actually been used in a directly-aiding fashion (I imagine this would be something like giving Jade's bullets a tailwind to make them fly faster, or a windy shield to guard people). Unless I've got the wrong end of the stick entirely in thinking of passive classes as party-buffers.

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