My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic Thread 5: [S] Escape

[gingerale]

It's your own fault switching to this thread while it was under contstruction when the previous thread didn't even have 100 pages yet. :I

I take no responsibility because the change was done while I was asleep!

[frostedWarlock]

Heeeeey I'm working on something neato-keen. Give me a fair shake before assuming I don't know words.

[Soleron]

I didn't listen to music with lyrics at all before I found ponies. My MP3 player is entirely ponies, homestuck and video game music.

For pony vocal artists, I like Glaze, Tombstone, Fragmentd08, Replacer, D.notive, JPT, AllLevelsAtOnce, H8 Seed and MandoPony.

Maybe I'm looking at the wrong pop artists, because it's improbable that collectively they are better than any other artists in the last century.

[forkinyoureye]

Whoa hi we're already up to page two.

What did I miss while I was asleep?

[kd7sov]

...Clearly I should expand my horizons. The only one of those names I recognize is MandoPony.

[Isoraqathedh]

I don't think that's true for everyone.

Me, for instance. To me, voices are just another instrument in music.
Whether it's memorable or not depends entirely on the listener.

But I thought a song without lyrics is a piece…?

[Triangle Man]

Oh, hey, new thread!

*punches in the phone number*

Hey, is there a DJ P0N3 here? I was told that I could get 'good times' if I called this number. What can you offer me?

[Wesley Foxx]

I don't actually want to weigh in on the whole censorship issue, since thats still a touchy subject I guess, but the character apology video is the most hearbreaking thing I can currently remember watching. All of my tears. ;^;

[frostedWarlock]

I'd be more likely to sympathize with what I am now dubbing The Unspeakable Subject if it didn't keep churning out depressing stuff. When I see depressing stuff, my instinct is to turn away and focus on other things. If there were more upbeat works for the matter, I'd probably be less biased.

[*Sigh*]

The Unspeakable Subject

I like this. We should make it canon.

Anyway it's kind of hard to make light of this subject so soon, although they are trying over at Ponibooru.

[Inconspicularity]

I'd be more likely to sympathize with what I am now dubbing The Unspeakable Subject if it didn't keep churning out depressing stuff. When I see depressing stuff, my instinct is to turn away and focus on other things. If there were more upbeat works for the matter, I'd probably be less biased.

huh, funnily enough whenever i see happy stuff my first instinct is to go back to my depressing stuff.

[MESIAS_ROCKET]

Oh cool, new thread.

Thank goodness you're working on the starting post frostedWarlock.

Yay nobody complaining at me to keep the OP up to date anymore.

I was about to, you know?
You should have used Shinnmera's OP from the third general. But well, that doesn't matter anymore I guess.

Also, on a quick mention, this whole Derpy situation is quite stupid, and I won't say a thing until Hasbro says something on the matter. While I feel annoyed and disappointed at Hasbro for the rushed and really subpar change, it's worthless to rage about it. And specially to find those people who are vocal on their opinion against Derpy and use them as scapegoats.
Even if said person or persons have some nasty "my stance is the morally correct issue, and if you disagree with me you are a terrible person" attitude problem.
I'll wait for any notice from Hasbro, they'll have to say something (or make an asspull) sooner or later.

And anyways, I already pre-ordered the Friendship Express DVD, so I can get the untouched episode.

[frostedWarlock]

okay when I said Unspeakable while I was sort of implying Not Entirely Unreferenceable you're still blatantly breaking the whole Unspeakable aspect.

[MobileMammal]

I don't think that's true for everyone.

Me, for instance. To me, voices are just another instrument in music.
Whether it's memorable or not depends entirely on the listener.

THIS! I am a musician who specializes in lyrics, and I still totally agree! "Tramp the Dirt Down" by Elvis Costello may have sad lyrics, but the reason it's a sad song is
the music! A person's voice is important, but it's really just one of the things a musician can use.


I had to re-type that five times to make sure it wasn't a rant. I erased a few... paragraphs...

[kd7sov]

Oh, indeed. Lyrics don't make or break a song, generally. They do, however, give it another hook.

Let me back up. I love music. I always have, my parents always have, my brother is a music major specializing in the cello, I've been playing piano for something like two thirds of my life. But words have been a part of me for much longer; I started speaking earlier than most kids, I was reading fluently before I turned four, and so on.

As a result, I process words and tunes differently. There are instrumental things I can recognize and remember, but that's often the result of repeated exposure - video game tracks, the really well-known classical pieces, and so on - or a really distinctive piece - Sunslammer from HS vol 5, for instance. It doesn't mean I enjoy instrumentals any less, or that I'm any less likely to seek them out. But... if I load up Winter Wrap-Up or Smile, Smile, Smile, I often start humming it under my breath before it starts playing, whereas I can't do that even with such background tracks as the restoration of Applejack's memories or the crusading from Show Stoppers.

[Malisteen]

the character apology video

The what now where?

[AProcrastinatingWriter]

okay when I said Unspeakable while I was sort of implying Not Entirely Unreferenceable you're still blatantly breaking the whole Unspeakable aspect.

Are we talking about Voldemort

Don't you know that refusing to say his name only increases people's fear of him and therefore increases his power






Oh wait we're talking about the Derpy Hooves controversy.

Same principle, though.

Happy new thread!

...oh, and as for my opinion on lyrics vs. no lyrics: I generally prefer songs with lyrics, but there are plenty of songs without lyrics I enjoy. I'm kind of confused as to why one or the other should be seen as bad and the other good, either way, but apparently that's some people's opinion and that's fine.

[OnBackorder]

While we are still on the topic of lyrics, it is foolish to believe singing is not an instrument. Although the entry level for singing is low there are few who can make a career out of it. Plus there are advanced methods of singing from booming opera to the two-tone throat singing of Tulva and even guttural, unintelligible metal.

I will say this, Auto-tune is to the human voice what the theremin is to the violin. It is almost a parody of the instrument, not quite as precise and nowhere near as emotional but able to do things the original couldn't. Auto-tune and the unaided voice's only commonality is the ability to speak words. Many think that Auto-tune is just a way to correct a bad singing voice; This is not true, it is a unique tool and should be treated as such. I couldn't care how bad someones voice is, Tom Waits sounds like he eats whole driveways and he sings for a living.

I should find some examples of fan-music that uses Auto-tune improperly. I tend not to save those pages, so I've a bit a searching to do.

[Wesley Foxx]

The what now where?

the this now here.

[frostedWarlock]

okay you guys are really breaking the whole Unspeakable thing

seeeeriouslyyyyyy guuuuuuys

[orderboundChaotic]

Well, And That's How Equestria Was Made has a nice take on the "unspeakable" topic.

As for lyrics, they're nice, but not having them is okay too. The voice is just another instrument.

[frostedWarlock]

Honestly I prefer songs without lyrics because most of the songs I listen to are soundtracks, and soundtracks try to paint imagery without words and it's generally more impressive to me than radical wordplay. Speaking of which...



This is kinda what I'm talking about.

[Malisteen]

unspeakable by Malisteen, on Flickr

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derp by Malisteen, on Flickr

[kd7sov]

...I have no idea how much of this is based on the picture and how much on the sound, but what this paints in my mind is "Robot Wants Macaroni".

But then, our priorities are clearly different; I absolutely adore wordplay in all its forms. I thus have a particular fondness for Sondheim's work.

[Triangle Man]

Now you see, I manage to avoid having Applejack chew me out because I have enough sense to let some (mostly silly) topics die a slow and painful death.

And I love all songs regardless of whether they have lyrics or not. Some songs (such as with Smooth Jazz or some of the stuff by Santana or Pink Floyd) would be ruined if people tried to insert lyrics into them...