Vriska Quarantine 7: 3/8 Spidertrolls Introduced

[Quirk]

Quirk popped the champagne and partied. He just wanted her dead by any means possible.

For a while he liked Terezi too, only BECAUSE she killed her.

Now not so much because we corrupted her to him. And so did the ancient Greeks. But back then it was a total party.

Out of all the things to come back to after a week without internet, Vriska dying is one of the best.

@Dmatix - I also agree that Vriska's death was fitting and appropriate. Primarily in the repeated animation of Spades smashing the clock.

[just that guy]

He's not a fan of the kind of drama she carried around in the story. He likes Kids and Fun, and she is one of the strongest symptoms against it.

That is, he finds her extremely boring. And also wants to nuke the rest of the trolls for bringing said unfunny drama into the story. And might be getting near nuking the Alpha kids too for having too much romance in their stories or something.

He basically wants more Problem Sleuth.

Lots of nuking going on.

i think hs balances a good amount of drama
but i agree with the alpha kid romance thing
i'm, as stated before, not a big shipper
although i found tavros and vriska would be a funny relationship
what with her being impulsive and tavros just kind of wheeling around cripple-y with her trying to strengthen him to have him fall down some stairs

[Quirk]

although i found tavros and vriska would be a funny relationship
what with her being impulsive and tavros just kind of wheeling around cripple-y with her trying to strengthen him to have him fall down some stairs

Oh, yeah, abusive relationships are just great! [/sarcasm]

[colwag]

@Dmatix - I also agree that Vriska's death was fitting and appropriate. Primarily in the repeated animation of Spades smashing the clock.

In a twist of fate, that smashed clock ended up saving her from a true, vanish-from-existance just death, and allows her a chance to make up for her crimes and come back in a more heroic manner after being rejudged.

The very satisfying slam are the slams to revive her, not destroy her.

[just that guy]

Oh, yeah, abusive relationships are just great! [/sarcasm]

sir you misinterpret
although is it good or bad that i just imagined 'one day, tavros, str8 to one of the moons'

[colwag]

If fictional murder can be hilarious so can fictional domestic abuse.

I mean, the funny thing is that even after all that, Tavros never did explicitly deny her love. He just was totally shocked that she kissed him. Like he was totally shocked that Gamzee hit on him. Tavros even tried to get up to kiss her twice! With a bit of encouragement from NotRufio in his head, but still. He seemed game for makeouts.

[Rikushadow5]

What if BetaJohn made a deal with Typheus to get him to revive Vriska? I mean, that's still a severly dangling thread, and if it's not cleared up soon my head's gonna be a few screws shy of a brothel.

...I may have lost the handle on that metaphor.

[just that guy]

If fictional murder can be hilarious so can fictional domestic abuse.

I mean, the funny thing is that even after all that, Tavros never did explicitly deny her love. He just was totally shocked that she kissed him. Like he was totally shocked that Gamzee hit on him. Tavros even tried to get up to kiss her twice! With a bit of encouragement from NotRufio in his head, but still. He seemed game for makeouts.

the way i see it if they met up in their dreambubble-thing-majjyks, i think they'd make up or something

[Quirk]

In a twist of fate, that smashed clock ended up saving her from a true, vanish-from-existance just death, and allows her a chance to make up for her crimes and come back in a more heroic manner after being rejudged.

The very satisfying slam are the slams to revive her, not destroy her.

You know what, I can live with that. Spades smashing the clock had the anger that Terezi didn't have. Terezi was too clean and quick. Spades on the other hand, was, well, beating her to death with a crowbar while screaming "WHY *smash* WON'T *smash* YOU *smash* FUCKING *smash* DIE?" (Not literally, but close enough.)

And I think that counts as paying.

[Dmatix]

Against all hope, I do hope she stays dead.
Not because I hate her, for as I stated, I don't really care about her either way, but because I think the story will gain nothing from her return.
Her arc was finished. She saw her all her plans reach an end, and died just a step from the finish line, overlooking the promised land from Mt.Nevo, but never entering it, if you will.
Bringing her back just doesn't feel right.

[Rikushadow5]

You know what, I can live with that. Spades smashing the clock had the anger that Terezi didn't have. Terezi was too clean and quick. Spades on the other hand, was, well, beating her to death with a crowbar while screaming "WHY *smash* WON'T *smash* YOU *smash* FUCKING *smash* DIE?"

And I think that counts as paying.

Your way of seeing things never ceases to amuse me.

[just that guy]

Against all hope, I do hope she stays dead.
Not because I hate her, for as I stated, I don't really care about her either way, but because I think the story will gain nothing from her return.
Her arc was finished. She saw her all her plans reach an end, and died just a step from the finish line, overlooking the promised land from Mt.Nevo, but never entering it, if you will.
Bringing her back just doesn't feel right.

i think it'd offer an assload of stuff
maybe she'd go after jack again or something with some help
because she was pretty damn close in betatimeline.
with gamzee doing that dance from alterniabound and jack, intrigued, watching, i'm certain that achievement of the achievement-iest kind could be achieved

[colwag]

Your way of seeing things never ceases to amuse me.

I'm the same in some ways.

It made me really, really happy to have Jade kill Dave directly like she did.

She had no anguish for killing him, just anguish over having to kiss that disgusting loser face of his afterwards.

It was so much fun.

@Dmatrix: Who can we NOT kill right now? Like, who still has something solid to give to the story?

I mean I sorta feel like if you took out just about everybody but maybe Kanaya and the Alphas at this point, there'd be no major lost plotlines. But I might be forgetting a few million.

[Dragonstorm]

Yes, /an/ arc of hers was finished.

But it was not the only arc she had, and neither was she exempt from other arcs. (Terezi, for example, is a huge one, as is John's arc)

Explain how you feel her coming back does not feel right. I'm just curious.

[just that guy]

Your way of seeing things never ceases to amuse me.

the way i saw it spades was just pissed off and destroying scratch's clock because it was too purpyellow.
and since crowbar's crowbar fucks up properties of majjyk artifacts
i mean is it a coincidence that he happened to be destroying the clock with the crowbar that could remove any majjyk properties

unless the clock isn't the thing that determines just/fair deaths, just records them

but i lean on the 'majjyk clock' is the determine-ise-istic-ism itself thing.

[just that guy]

I'm the same in some ways.

It made me really, really happy to have Jade kill Dave directly like she did.

She had no anguish for killing him, just anguish over having to kiss that disgusting loser face of his afterwards.

It was so much fun.

@Dmatrix: Who can we NOT kill right now? Like, who still has something solid to give to the story?

I mean I sorta feel like if you took out just about everybody but maybe Kanaya and the Alphas at this point, there'd be no major lost plotlines. But I might be forgetting a few million.

kanaya barely contributed anything anyways, and bringing her back as a vampire seemed pretty useless
but hussie is a crafty bastard
you never know

[colwag]

kanaya barely contributed anything anyways, and bringing her back as a vampire seemed pretty useless
but hussie is a crafty bastard
you never know

I only say Kanaya because she has a "maybe bring back troll race, also make out with Rose" arc that would be drastically cut off if she redied like I want her to.

But yeah, Vriska at least had a goal of redemption to work towards, to be a better person and all that. Everyone else is pretty much in it for self preservation.

[Dmatix]

I'm the same in some ways.

It made me really, really happy to have Jade kill Dave directly like she did.

She had no anguish for killing him, just anguish over having to kiss that disgusting loser face of his afterwards.

It was so much fun.

@Dmatrix: Who can we NOT kill right now? Like, who still has something solid to give to the story?

I mean I sorta feel like if you took out just about everybody but maybe Kanaya and the Alphas at this point, there'd be no major lost plotlines. But I might be forgetting a few million.

I think you are missing my point a little. Sure you could have written another arc about her, but why would you want to?
The ending she got was akin to a Greek, Shakespearean or even Biblical tragedy. It is a worthy ending for any character.
Imagine some wizard bringing Macbeth back to life so he can have revenge against his slayer and reclaim his kingdom. It is a story that can be told, but to tell it will be to cheapen the original. Sometimes to end is better.

[just that guy]

I only say Kanaya because she has a "maybe bring back troll race, also make out with Rose" arc that would be drastically cut off if she redied like I want her to.

But yeah, Vriska at least had a goal of redemption to work towards, to be a better person and all that. Everyone else is pretty much in it for self preservation.

i think it's definite that vriska'll have a few scenes in the near future, what with the hints [UU's mentioning of thieves, the trolls in roxy's dream, vriska's mention in john's letter]
and it's at least 3/8s plausible that she'll be revived by some majjyk or something

[just that guy]

I think you are missing my point a little. Sure you could have written another arc about her, but why would you want to?
The ending she got was akin to a Greek, Shakespearean or even Biblical tragedy. It is a worthy ending for any character.
Imagine some wizard bringing Macbeth back to life so he can have revenge against his slayer and reclaim his kingdom. It is a story that can be told, but to tell it will be to cheapen the original. Some times to end is better.

i like homestuck's completely unfair and cruel depiction of reality, but vriska's story is not in any way over the way most people see it
way too much has to happen

I think you are missing my point a little. Sure you could have written another arc about her, but why would you want to?
The ending she got was akin to a Greek, Shakespearean or even Biblical tragedy. It is a worthy ending for any character.
Imagine some wizard bringing Macbeth back to life so he can have revenge against his slayer and reclaim his kingdom. It is a story that can be told, but to tell it will be to cheapen the original. Some times to end is better.

i like homestuck's completely unfair and cruel depiction of reality, but vriska's story is not in any way over the way most people see it
way too much has to happen

[Quirk]

I think you are missing my point a little. Sure you could have written another arc about her, but why would you want to?
The ending she got was akin to a Greek, Shakespearean or even Biblical tragedy. It is a worthy ending for any character.
Imagine some wizard bringing Macbeth back to life so he can have revenge against his slayer and reclaim his kingdom. It is a story that can be told, but to tell it will be to cheapen the original. Sometimes to end is better.

This, and also bringing Vriska back would make her fans happy. That is UNACCEPTABLE. >:|

Also, Just That Guy, there is an edit button. Might want to make use of it instead of double posting.

[just that guy]

This, and also bringing Vriska back would make her fans happy. That is UNACCEPTABLE. >:|

vriska staying dead would make her antifans happy
this is SIGNIFIGANTLY LESS THAN ACCEPTABLE

[colwag]

I think you are missing my point a little. Sure you could have written another arc about her, but why would you want to?
The ending she got was akin to a Greek, Shakespearean or even Biblical tragedy. It is a worthy ending for any character.
Imagine some wizard bringing Macbeth back to life so he can have revenge against his slayer and reclaim his kingdom. It is a story that can be told, but to tell it will be to cheapen the original. Sometimes to end is better.

I disagree with her ending being akin to one. Maybe Shakespearean, but that's pretty much just "Sad things happen people die" at that point.

And I don't think it's a very good ending at all, because it had no real impact in it and there were plenty of other plot arcs to go through.

You say that bringing her back would cheapen her original story. But does the death itself not cheapen the rest of her story previous? I do not think it built up to it very well at all, and it added nothing to the story, not emotional value nor plot value, while taking out a number of interesting emotional and plot threads.

Honestly anything that "cheapens" that death is a good thing to me.

[just that guy]

This, and also bringing Vriska back would make her fans happy. That is UNACCEPTABLE. >:|

Also, Just That Guy, there is an edit button. Might want to make use of it instead of double posting.

oh right
my bad

[Dmatix]

I suppose we will have to agree to disagree then Colwag. Rest assured, I'm sure Hussie can write a perfectly decent story about her return, but I think it will be inferior to the one that can be told if she does not, for as many story lines that this sadly inevitable return will create, it will also close, and I for once am more interested in those.