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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    Dont see anything particularly wrong with the profile besides what you mentioned - the culling for being lazy that is - but perhaps you should include that in the intro itself?

    As for the sprite, his left eye's pupil could stand to be moved over, as right now hes looking directly at the screen instead of off to the left like sprites usually do. The mouth is also a little low. Edit; whoops also the right side of his hair should be a little poofier as well, right now its looking a little flat
    Edit2.0; damn it, also if his hair is supposed to be the same length on both sides then Id either shorten the left side or lengthen the right, as right now one side looks longer
    Editeditedit; Jeebus I keep noticing things because Ive got him lined up with Karkat.......
    Anyway turns out the left eye should be moved over all together. The pupil still too but yeah. Right now it looks as though it had to be moved over to make room for that bit of hair but it looks quite strange when you line it up
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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    >_< Crap, I don't think I can do that easily with all of those scars in the way...

    Edit: managed anyway but, um... I'm not really liking the results here...



    Before and after for comparison. Since you were using Karkat, I used him too, and moved over the left eye so that it was the same exact number of pixels over past Karkat's as the other eye... The result is kinda scary.
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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    Quote Originally Posted by trickyKlepto View Post
    >_< Crap, I don't think I can do that easily with all of those scars in the way...

    Edit: managed anyway but, um... I'm not really liking the results here...



    Before and after for comparison. Since you were using Karkat, I used him too, and moved over the left eye so that it was the same exact number of pixels over past Karkat's as the other eye... The result is kinda scary.
    Oh god it's like he's looking at me. I'm sorry I didn't do it masta, OH GOD NOOOOOO

    Anyway. I don't know about anyone else, but his face seems a bit scrunched up now... Maybe it's just the hair.

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    Hows this instead? I had to get rid of the piece of hair covering the other cheek, as it was messing up your alignments, I think

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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    Quote Originally Posted by canidaeVulpecula View Post
    @ProxyKnight, sprite looks pretty great! My only comments are the eyes seem way too far to the left, so you may wanna move them over to line up with canon trolls. That symbol has also been used tons of times, but if you dont mind that, then carry on
    Oh, I knew it would be a common symbol, but it just fit with the idea I had which led to his creation.
    Trust me, I hate this character, personally.
    Not that I think I wrote/designed him poorly, I just hate everything about him.
    I designed him to be an annoying asshole, in fact, haha.

    As for his eyes...I lined them up with Vriska's sprite, so unless hers are also misaligned, then...I dunno what to tell ya.

    Speaking of eyes, I should really fix those minor mistakes on my human character. :T

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    Okay, fixed King.

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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    @canidae + @tricky
    I don't know... I don't much like the smaller pupils, quite honestly. You were definitely right about how scrunched the face looked, though I'm not liking how low the eyebrows are. They almost blend into the top of the eye, and one can't quite tell if his expression reaches them, if that makes sense. Maybe you (tricky, I mean) could raise them a tad, and put just two little 'scrunch' marks in between. Just a suggestion.

    @Proxyknight
    I didn't actually notice your modification at first! The eye was rather subtle- a nice catch on the critiquer's part. He definitely looks a might better!

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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    Yeah, I didnt like them too much either, but I couldnt figure out how to make them bigger without either a) basically taking out the red in general or b) having them not directly in the center of the red. It was driving me nuts @_@

    @Proxyknight, I actually dont remember the sprite I said that for xP But I may've said that because if its a male troll, then I always line up male fantrolls with canon male trolls, since the eyes on males are usually smaller, I find. Not to mention its easier to align male mouths with canon male mouths, if only because the only female trolls who dont wear lipstick have strangely shaped mouths :P In other news, King's lookin good!

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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    @canidae I dunno, his mouth being higher up still kinda makes him look... scrunchy.

    @timepainter Raising his eyebrows might help some stuff out...

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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    To be fair, canon homestuck style faces look kinda scrunchy in general. :P But hey change it all you want!
    Edit; SHIT i forgot to put the under-eye back under his left eye ajksdfals x_x also forgot to fix the right one aaaaaaa
    Editedit; Fixed it!
    Id like to help with the eyebrow thing, but to be honest Im not sure where his eye stops and his eyebrow starts, so thats up to you buddy.
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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    Alright, first full profile that I've put up here in a while. Critique away! (One note about the sprite: If there's something wrong, tell me how to fix it! I really want to improve the sprite myself, and someone else fixing it for me really isn't what critique is about to me.)

    >Be the moon-powered burglar.

    O-O-i'm no burglar, ya scumbag narrator. git yer facts straight.-O-O

    >Uh, OK. Be the moon-powered chick who breaks and enters?

    O-O-that's right me man. round o' applause fer this mate 'ere.-O-O



    Your name is PHULIA SLEUTL.

    You are a SEVEN SWEEP-OLD BROWNBLOOD, and you make a living as a CANDID PHOTOGRUBBER. In essence, you use your SKELETON KEY to enter all sorts of places, then take PHOTOGRUBS of all the stuff that might ENDANGER REPUTATIONS. They are then sold to the TABLOIDS under one of many FAKE NAMES.

    It really isn't the most GLAMOROUS JOB, and you are in constant danger of being discovered, but that's the TRILL of it! You love CHANGING YOUR STYLE and going by different PERSONAE and, of course, the ADRENALINE. However, you always have a SHAVED HEAD, because your hair grows LARGE and FAST, and it would get in the way of your JOB.

    As for INTERESTS, you enjoy the SLYKIN COOPER games, along with JAMESS BONDER movies. Anything with tons of ACTION is great to you, because just WATCHING it can give you that RUSH you adore!

    In terms of the PSYCHIC POWERS that so many lowbloods have, you are NO EXCEPTION. You have special ENERGY BURSTS that function with you at the center. However, their POWER is determined by the phases of the MOONS. If one moon were NEW while the other was CRESCENT, your burst would do JACK SHIT. If there were two FULL MOONS, then you might be able to STUN A DRONE for just long enough to get away! But that's probably just wishful thinking, because seriously, it's a FUCKING DRONE.

    In terms of your thoughts on the HEMOSPECTRUM, you are quite FOND OF IT, mainly because your LOW STATUS means that doing your job to SUPERIORS gives you a RUSH that you could never get if everyone was EQUAL.

    You use the LOCKPICK MODUS, which forces you to PICK THE LOCK of every card to access them. You use the KEYKIND SPECIBUS, with your SKELETON KEY. It would normally be USELESS, but the key inexplicably transforms into a PISTOL.

    On TROLLIAN, the tag you use when you're actually being YOURSELF is moonlitKey, O-O-an' ya talk wit' a bit o' an accent, ya 'ear?-O-O
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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    (I aaalmost feel like thats a shot at me but Ive been talked to about that ;P)

    Hairlines very off, raise the her-right part of it. Something seems a little strange with the bottom of the shoes but its probably just the ...whatevertheyrecalled's confusing me. If the horns are supposed to be symmetrical, either raise her right ones or lower the left, as the left ones are higher

    Why does she have a key to every house? I dont know a thing about key making or whatever, but I thought a "skeleton key" meant a key to every door.... in only one house. Do they have a huge ring of multiple skeleton keys? If she works with a lockpick modus, one could assume shes good at lockpicking, so why dont you just say she picks the locks instead of carrying around a skeleton key?

    I dont think she'd have to change her whole persona to go break into a hive and take pictures. The most she'd have to do is find a way to change her horn shape - possibly with some kind of clay -, wear a mask and not wear her symbol. It doesnt matter who shes pretending to be at the moment, if she gets caught then she'll probably be culled.
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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    @llamamiah If you're going for a buzzcut look, i'd probably suggest making some little hair spots jut off a little instead of the little square-skip pattern you've got going on, it looks kinda odd.

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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    First one:
    -Eyes are a bit too far apart
    Second one:
    -Symbol is too thin and a bit too complicated
    -Juggalo makeup usually looks like regular clown makeup around the eyes and mouth.
    Third one:
    -What even is that symbol? Troll symbols are usually line-based rather than shape-based.

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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    Alright, thank you very much for the critique! Here's the fixed up version, spoilered for convenience. I also added some important info that I somehow forgot.

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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis



    In order to keep that vaguely cat/dog ear like shape of his hair, I had to make the ear looking spikes a little bigger. I made the pupils smaller and moved the one eye over a little bit, lengthened the one side... Still wishing I was awesome enough at this to sprite his uniform, but... Anyway, is it any better?

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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    Can I get a critique on these guys?

    Just a note- Their named are 8:4, not 6:6, but I'm aware that most trolls usually have 6:6 names. I'm breaking the rule on purpose.
    Also, they are all in a session together, which is part of a doomed timeline where Karkat, Vriska, and Sollux all died, and so their session never started. (Obviously, my fantrolls whole session is doomed.)

    Hasarak Capo

    (hey there L^DIES.



    Teal blood--7 sweeps--Male


    Damnatti Nexa

    i have a ♭ad feeling a♭out this...



    Orange/Brown blood--7 sweeps--Female


    Verejako Sial

    ~(oh my god-d I t-think-k I'm going t-to faint-t)~



    Olive blood--6.5 sweeps--Male


    Desmodia Audi

    )))I bet your blood tastes great! nwn



    Indigo blood--6 sweeps--Female



    Gaudiuma (And suggestions for last name?)

    all my friends are so b>O<ring. YAWN! Y>O<u sh>O<uld c>O<me t>O< my hive!
    (Quirk not very solid yet, any suggestions?)



    Blue blood--7 sweeps--Female

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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    Only gonna do the sprites because i'm lazy.

    1- Looks fine, maybe make the 1Px lines thicker?

    2- A bit more hair near the right horns would be good. Looks fine otherwise. Symbol is a bit large though.

    3- What's the grey thing? Also the eyes look strange. Large symbol too.

    4- Bright pupils? What is under the green shoes? Symbol could use a little shrinking.

    5- Symbol is huuuuge. Hair is a bit funky. Are the horns going behind her head?

    I must say that's some nice work though.
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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    Quote Originally Posted by LemonadeRat View Post
    I have to ask, is there a reason for the 8/4 naming scheme? I'm not critiquing, but I'm curious as to why you picked it.

    Both the brownblood and the greenblood have wonky heads, something's off with their facial proportions or hair shapes. I'd recommend you line them up next to a canon troll like Aradia or Sollux and see where their eyes/mouths/hairlines lie.
    The pecs on the tealblood are wonky! Generally I'd advise against trying to put muscle definition on a troll sprite, since the damn things don't even have noses.
    What's the grey thing in the greenblood's lapel? Is it meant to be a flower? The spriting is a little strange- maybe make the outline darker than the fill, for starters.
    The purpleblood's foot spikes look more like, uh, fuzz. Thicken them up, or maybe rip Equius's shoes instead?
    The pink on the blueblood is really... offputting, for lack of a better word. It clashes a bit? I'd make the shiny things the same blue or at least closer to her blood color.

    You haven't really given much about their personalities beyond a few buzzwords so I can't really critique that.
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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    @llamamiah, sorry I didnt mean masks as in... well, paper mache. I mean typical thieving masks - You know, ski masks, or at least a bandana covering the lower half of her face.
    @trickyklepto, certainly looks better then before! You can still tell the mouth is a little low and too much to the left, but it doesnt look overly out of place.
    @lemonaderat, Adding on to the two crits above with a few things Ive noticed as well. The tealbloods legs look a little strange, so maybe you should try ripping the legs from the robot on the sprite sheet and using that as a base to work with - or Rose's legs, or Feferi's legs though she has those anklets or whatever. Indigo's belt or sash.. The strip of purple around her waist, Id suggest thickening the black lines around it a bit more. Olivebloods hair looks a little thin around his right horn, and while the impression I get from his hair in general is thin, the bits under that horn are like 1 pixel wide thin :P

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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    @Thunder Reign: Haha, the names aren't like that for any really symbolic meaning, but it came from when I was creating Damnatti. (She was the first one I made.) I was pretty new to Homestuck at the time, and I didn't know that trolls ALWAYS had 6:6 names. I thought it was like the kids- The ones in the story all had matching names, but not all of them in existence had names of a certain letter. So her name ended up being 8:4, and so I kept the naming scheme with the rest of my fantrolls.

    @Everyone who gave my a critique: Thank you! I've made some edits to the sprites. Here they are-

    Haskarak



    -Fixed his legs
    -Got rid of the muscles
    -Put shines on his chestplate. (It's supposed to be metal, hehe.)

    Damnatti



    -Fixed her eye placement a bit

    Verejako



    -Redid the flower
    -Edited his hair
    -Moved his eyes and mouth

    Desmodia



    -Thickened the outline of her belt
    -Made the spikes on her shoes different

    Gaudiuma



    -Changed the colour of her shoes and hairclips
    -Made her symbol smaller
    (And yes, her horns go behind her head and cross in an 'x' in the back.)

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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    Quote Originally Posted by trickyKlepto View Post
    Before and after for comparison. Since you were using Karkat, I used him too, and moved over the left eye so that it was the same exact number of pixels over past Karkat's as the other eye... The result is kinda scary.
    You should probably use a female troll as a reference because your troll's eyes are edited off a female.

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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    Quote Originally Posted by Timepainter View Post
    @Proxyknight
    I didn't actually notice your modification at first! The eye was rather subtle- a nice catch on the critiquer's part. He definitely looks a might better!
    Yes, it certainly was! And thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by canidaeVulpecula View Post
    @Proxyknight, I actually dont remember the sprite I said that for xP But I may've said that because if its a male troll, then I always line up male fantrolls with canon male trolls, since the eyes on males are usually smaller, I find. Not to mention its easier to align male mouths with canon male mouths, if only because the only female trolls who dont wear lipstick have strangely shaped mouths :P In other news, King's lookin good!
    Oh, thank you. King's kinda my main character, so I'm making sure to adjust him as best as I can. Heh.
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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    Okay, I've discovered I cannot sprite anything larger than a Pokemon sprite without making it look horrible, so this is just going to be one of my characters' profiles, along with a brief physical description.
    EDIT! Okay, I attempted to sprite. Crit on that would be most appreciated as well!


    ==> Be the shy, self-loathing troll.



    ==> Be the antisocial huntress.

    betterr.


    Your name is CANISS ROMULO, and you HATE BEING BOTHERED. The only troll you have regular contact with is your MOIRAIL, and that’s mainly to ASSURE HIM YOU’RE STILL ALIVE. Truth is, he’s the only one who knows how SOCIALLY INEPT and SELF-DESTRUCTIVE you can be. Having built your hive IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WOODS and spent most of your life HUNTING FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR LUSUS, you never really got to learn PROPER SOCIAL SKILLS. Most of the trolls you encountered before your moirail you KILLED, TO FEED THE ALPHA. The aforementioned Alpha is your LUSUS, a ONCE-HARDENED HOWLBEAST who gave up LEADING HER PACK to raise you, and is now ONE LAZY NOOKSUCKER. After TEACHING YOU TO HUNT PROPERLY, she basically curled up next to your hive and had you HUNT FOR HER. Whenever you start getting CARELESS WITH HER MEAL, she GRIEFS WITH YOU, goes out and hunts her prey herself, and then comes home and eats both HER FOOD AND YOURS. Her near-complete lack of COMPASSION or LENIENCE is probably what caused you to HATE YOURSELF SO MUCH. You pretty much have NO SENSE OF SELF-PRESERVATION, often RISKING YOUR NECK for a SUCCESSFUL KILL, and also hunting WITHOUT ANY WEAPONS. You have TROPHIES of some of your MOST DIFFICULT HUNTS adorning your hive to try and BOOST YOUR CONFIDENCE, but it doesn’t really work.

    But enough DEEP EMOTIONAL CRAP. Your blood is A FAIRLY BORING SHADE OF CERULEAN, putting you in a state of DEMI-NOBILITY. Though you are MINDFUL OF THE HEMOSPECTRUM, especially when it comes to KEEPING LOWBLOODS IN THEIR PLACE, most other highbloods LOOK DOWN ON YOU because of your UNTAMED LIFESTYLE. Therefore, you’re A BIT SHORT with condescending highbloods. Your moirail tells you that others are simply jealous of your RAW POWER and RUTHLESSNESS, but you think he’s just trying to make sure YOU DON’T KILL ANY HIGHBLOODS. Speaking of your moirail, he’s the only troll to ever SUBDUE YOU DURING A HUNT. In fact, you’re actually a bit SCARED OF HIM, which makes you HATE HIM sometimes. You don’t tell him about that, though, because, from what he’s told you, HATE is NOT A PART OF MOIRALLEGIANCE.

    When you’re not hunting or talking with your moirail, you’re usually out in the woods, CLIMBING TREES, COLLECTING INTERESTING ROCKS, or SWIMMING IN THE RIVER. You think most young trolls’ pastimes, like browsing the Alternet or FLARPing, are RIDICULOUS. Why would you want to fake things when you can LIVE them?

    Your trolltag is growlingGamine, and yourr speech comes out in a rrushed snarl.

    PHYSICAL


    TL;DR
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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis


    The guy on the left is the ectobiological father of the guy on the right. What would be a good symbol for a guy who likes hunting?

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    Re: FANTROLL/HUMAN/ETC CRITIQUE THREAD: anti-alias is our arch-nemesis

    @Quizzle For some reason (I didn't look into it so much) when I searched up hunting symbols, the fleur-de-lis came up. I think that would actually work.

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