BBC Sherlock

[AnatidaeCollector]

Why? Because they are stealing a concept for a remake? Because that doesn't really seem similar to actual stealing. The concept of a modern take on Sherlock Holmes is a good one, and there is more than one way to play it. You should give them the benefit of the doubt, both to produce something of quality and something that stands on it's own without taking ideas from Moffat.

I'm more upset that they're making Sherlock and "Joan Watson" or whatever the fuck they're naming her a couple, and that they had the need to make them a straight couple. It's twenty-freakin-12. If they can show straight couples having dry sex on MTV, they can show 2 guys holding hands and kissing.
Also, they only asked BBC for permission after they started working on the show. They were told no. But they did it anyway. THAT'S really not cool.
Never again will I watch an episode of Big Bang Theory on their channel or on their website legally.

[littlequietguy]

Good point. I'm still holding out some optimism though. All western culture from before is bad, everything that's going on right now is good, and everything in the future will be even better.
Right up until we reach the cultural singularity when everyone will cease to give a shit and just go along with the ultimate entertainment thrill ride.

[Inconspicularity]

They stopped working on their american version.

[Aangie]

The library happened to have Season One on DVD... so I picked it up and checked it out. I was instantly hooked. I really would like to continue, but I'm really bad at tracking down the other seasons. I'm having trouble finding them for some reason? Last time I checked, Netflix only had season one. Oh well, I'll come across it eventually~

[Inconspicularity]

The only way to get it other than p****y is currently a physical disc you can only buy in the UK.

[littlequietguy]

The library happened to have Season One on DVD... so I picked it up and checked it out. I was instantly hooked. I really would like to continue, but I'm really bad at tracking down the other seasons. I'm having trouble finding them for some reason? Last time I checked, Netflix only had season one. Oh well, I'll come across it eventually~

I found and watched them all one daily motion. I googled a second time and couldn't duplicate my success. Try looking there though.

also this
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-th...from-jerkwads/

[AnatidaeCollector]

I thought that just like a month ago they had finished their main casting and already started on a pilot?

[marcidThreat]

I would like to take a blanket and kind of settle forever on this thread. Hardcore Sherlockian here (although I pretty much like every adaptation except the Ritchieverse up until now. We'll see about Elementary when it comes out.)

Anyway, I need an excuse other than 'BUT I'VE JUST REGISTERED,' so I'll comment on PBS airing The Reichenbach Fall this week. I'm still not over the fact that they have been cutting stuff out due to time limits given that they've basically put 20 minutes of ads every other scene.

Re: Elementary and oh-dear-God-the-Joan -- Honestly? I don't mind that they've genderbent Watson, what I really find offensive is that they have done it solely for the purpose of on-screen romance and that they have refused to swap Holmes' gender as well. Now that would've been an interesting twist. I just hope it's not a blatant rip-off of the BBC production and that the show doesn't revolve around the relationships between the characters (See: House MD turning into a freaking soap opera for the whole of S6) and for the love of everything that belongs to the Mofftiss, no fake English accents.

[williamcll]

I just realized I haven't watched any of the third season yet.

[Inconspicularity]

There is no third season for another one and a half years.

[williamcll]

Wait what?

The site where I watched the show must be wrong then.

[littlequietguy]

Wait what?

The site where I watched the show must be wrong then.

It's a mystery.

[AnatidaeCollector]

I can see Elementary being fine if they don't make it a romance.
But if they do, then that's messed up, because you and I both damn well know that they wouldn't have made it a romantic relationship if Watson was kept male.
And knowing the American media, they will turn it into a romance. If they don't, kudos to them, I'll start watching. They have good actors and the styling/filming that I've seen so far seems fine, if not actually pretty snazzy, I must admit.
But fuck dammit, they better not have Holmes and Watson making out on screen, otherwise I will spam their producer's inbox with copious amounts of gay porn in protest, because gender swapping a character just to not turn off the homophobic population is just wrong.

[Triangle Man]

Oh hey, guess who picked up the first season DVD of this show on a whim yesterday and has fallen for this strange new show with it's modern, darker take on Sherlock Holmes and high quality of storylines?

Me, obviously.

They also have the second season available, I will get a hold of that ASAP. To they really only have three episodes a season, though?

[GoggleChild]

Oh hey, guess who picked up the first season DVD of this show on a whim yesterday and has fallen for this strange new show with it's modern, darker take on Sherlock Holmes and high quality of storylines?

Me, obviously.

They also have the second season available, I will get a hold of that ASAP. To they really only have three episodes a season, though?

Well, each one is like a mini-movie. And considering how good they are, I'm okay with it.
The second episode was a bit slow though. Maybe it was just because the first was so interesting and the second was so intense.

[littlequietguy]

Anyway, I need an excuse other than 'BUT I'VE JUST REGISTERED,' so I'll comment on PBS airing The Reichenbach Fall this week. I'm still not over the fact that they have been cutting stuff out due to time limits given that they've basically put 20 minutes of ads every other scene.

I rewatched the show on PBS and there weren't ads during the show, just before and after. Because it's Public Broadcasting. Are you thinking of Daily Motion with ads literally every five minutes? Because yes that was annoying.

@GoggleChild. No. The second episode was just awful for it's own reasons. Lestrade wasn't in it, for one.

Also I have come to the conclusion that the sherlock episode guidelines for both seasons are:
1: Best in Season
2: Worst In Season.
3: 2nd Best in Season.

With the episodes from the second season having a higher average quality than the first season.

[AnatidaeCollector]

I actually liked The Hounds of Baskerville more than A Scandal in Belgravia.
And for me, both series finales took the gold for me, simply because I fucking love the Sherlock/Moriarty dynamic.

[Triangle Man]

I actually liked The Hounds of Baskerville more than A Scandal in Belgravia.
And for me, both series finales took the gold for me, simply because I fucking love the Sherlock/Moriarty dynamic.

My friend told me that Moriarty is really awesome in this.

I'm going to watch the last episode of Season 3 in a few minutes. I hope that he is as awesome as promised!

[GoggleChild]

I actually liked The Hounds of Baskerville more than A Scandal in Belgravia.
And for me, both series finales took the gold for me, simply because I fucking love the Sherlock/Moriarty dynamic.

I agree that Hounds was a whole lot better than The Blind Banker, in terms of the hump episode. But Scandal in Belgravia had a lot more insight to Holmes character.

And yeah, Holmes vs. Moriarty is the best. The reveal/cliffhanger of Series 1 and the epic tumble he put Sherlock through in 2 sealed him. He was the perfect counter to Sherlock, all the brains, none of the morality.

[Halfblood2000]

Oh boy do I love this series! Was on Tumblr and gotl ike "what is this about", watched the entire series, oh boy was it cool.

In regards to S2, I actually really liked The Hounds of Baskerville, but A Scandal in Belgravia and the finale are just amazing.

[AnatidaeCollector]

I agree that Hounds was a whole lot better than The Blind Banker, in terms of the hump episode. But Scandal in Belgravia had a lot more insight to Holmes character.

And yeah, Holmes vs. Moriarty is the best. The reveal/cliffhanger of Series 1 and the epic tumble he put Sherlock through in 2 sealed him. He was the perfect counter to Sherlock, all the brains, none of the morality.

Maybe just the awesome sets and the classic terror with a twist aspect of Hounds is what hooked me, but I do think that it really focused a lot on Sherlock and John's dynamic more than any other S2 episode. It focused a lot on how Sherlock's actual mind works and his trust of John more than ASiB did, I think. Meanwhile, ASiB was more about exploring Sherlock's heart and personal life and interests in a way. I think that preferences for S2E1 vs S2E2 boils down to the classic battle of head vs heart. ASiB was definitely more drama-filled and explored Sherlock as some sort of strange demi-romantic, while Hounds was more focused around Sherlock's trust in himself and John, and John's trust and tolerance of him.

And agkgakhagha the Holmes/Moriarty dynamic is one of the best in literature. Period. I actually like their interactions in BBC's version more than Sherlock's interactions with John, tbh. Which really says a lot. But then again, Andrew Scott totally nailed the character and made the villain so absolutely lovable yet still scheming and terrifying that it was just brilliant in general.

[GoggleChild]

And agkgakhagha the Holmes/Moriarty dynamic is one of the best in literature. Period. I actually like their interactions in BBC's version more than Sherlock's interactions with John, tbh. Which really says a lot. But then again, Andrew Scott totally nailed the character and made the villain so absolutely lovable yet still scheming and terrifying that it was just brilliant in general.

I just love how he can be both totally mad and wholly brilliant in the same scenes. It is arguably the best role anyone could ever play, the villain who is in it for the thrill of the game and is still believable despite his audacity. The actor portrays him wonderfully.

[williamcll]

Oh boy do I love this series! Was on Tumblr and gotl ike "what is this about", watched the entire series, oh boy was it cool.

In regards to S2, I actually really liked The Hounds of Baskerville, but A Scandal in Belgravia and the finale are just amazing.

Despite that, I actually see very little sherlock on tumblr.

[BRPXQZME]

Personally, I thought “Scandal” was weaker than “Hounds”, and “Hounds” was relatively weak already. But then, I watched it on PBS, and Dad doesn’t know what an establishing shot is (i.e. what times nobody’s talking on the show so it’s okay to talk), so I was very, very confused as to why they were talking about ashtrays in Buckingham Palace....

(the reasons as to why I think this would probably sound very petty to someone else so I will withhold them for the time being, but they are reasons, and really they’re just annoying blemishes on what is otherwise a pretty savvy show)

They also have the second season available, I will get a hold of that ASAP. To they really only have three episodes a season, though?

It’s more normal for British shows (there’s even a trope entry for that if you want more details).

[Graknorke]

British shows can get away with it because they're better :P
Nah, sweeping generalisations like that aren't fair, but I do seem to notice that American television shows tend to have a lot less plot per episode, and a lot of it is just filler material, to take up space. I'm pretty sure that with some careful study and an eager delete finger, I could probably fit most of the sitcoms and such into about a half of the time, without compromising the plot severely. Maybe a third with a full reshoot of everything.