THE squiddle project (ART DESPERATELY NEEDED)

[Gordon]

Actually the troll symbols come from their blood class. There are various symbols for each blood type and you pick one. Save for Karkat, who just has the one symbol. I don't think you ever see the trolloscope symbols.

I could have sworn that the blood-class symbols were based on their zodiac but... since I can't actually quote it, I'll just go with what you said.

not sure about all of them, but Karkat for sure didn't have his symbol from the zodiac, it was based on the shackles of the "signless"

[avidGamer]

Actually the troll symbols come from their blood class. There are various symbols for each blood type and you pick one. Save for Karkat, who just has the one symbol. I don't think you ever see the trolloscope symbols.

I could have sworn that the blood-class symbols were based on their zodiac but... since I can't actually quote it, I'll just go with what you said.

not sure about all of them, but Karkat for sure didn't have his symbol from the zodiac, it was based on the shackles of the "signless"

oh, right. I wonder how that idea popped into my head in the first place. (the zodiac one)

[BlueRaffeKin]

ok,...debatable.

"hero" has two syllables. Titles must have one syllable (except for seer. Because seers are awesome I guess).

Also, I think squiddles should not have a clear gender.
They all look (almost) exactly the same. except for accessories.

So I'd prefer to just make 46 of them asexual and then 2 special ones that are clearly a particular gender.

But if nobody else agrees with me then oh well.

Edit: Oh. I'm not a wiggler anymore. ...I am such a n00b to this site.

[Gordon]

ok,...debatable.

"hero" has two syllables. Titles must have one syllable (except for seer. Because seers are awesome I guess).

Also, I think squiddles should not have a clear gender.
They all look (almost) exactly the same. except for accessories.

So I'd prefer to just make 46 of them asexual and then 2 special ones that are clearly a particular gender.

But if nobody else agrees with me then oh well.

Edit: Oh. I'm not a wiggler anymore. ...I am such a n00b to this site.

I don't mean the title is "hero" I was just using the word hero as a placeholder for whatever Title went with the aspect "Blood"... kind of like how Dave is refereed to as the Hero of Time, when his real title is The Knight of Time.

We don't even know for sure if the real life creatures look like the Squiddles that are on TV on Earth, that was 2 universes ago.
I personally think they look more like the dark gods that Rose is in contact with, and we just have kiddified them... but that is just me.

Genderification makes things easier in conversation, so you don't say things like "it" or "they"... look at the trolls, their gender is entirely irrelevant to their reproductive cycle, yet they still have genders.

[Edo Nagori]

I'm torn between giving the squiddles clear genders or not. I'll just go with my gut and say to give them genders, It'll make things easier for everyone.

[BlueRaffeKin]

Yeah, I guess you're right. Lets not make gender a big point though huh? Also, I get the feeling the the squiddle world will be like this.

[Gordon]

we could swap the genders around, have someone that looks clearly male referred to as a female, and vice versa.

[Edo Nagori]

Yeah, I guess you're right. Lets not make gender a big point though huh? Also, I get the feeling the the squiddle world will be like this.

Oh god yes, i was thinking the same thing XD Everybody is forced to be happy. Anyone who isn't is either shunned or "Re-educated". Which is why I say that we have at least one openly depressed squiddle, so there will be come sort of contrast from the other characters apparently happy attitudes.

[Mythee]

That squiddle sprite is really good. O-O

I thought the general consensus was that to be fair (and also to simplify the process considerably) we would randomize up the titles and then people can simply claim one every time they make a character. Or maybe people can draw titles via lottery? Or maybe to heck with making this a neat character creation process and just let everyone make whatever they come up with, and then have them change things if they overlap with others ideas, in which case some kind of authority would be needed to avoid struggles between people who share ideas, in which case some kind of power struggle would probably begin ASAP as people try to claim a management position? (...I think we should stick to an orderly collaborative system since this is how the project began... at this point changing the system would require... shenanigans. xD; )

In either case, yeah, squiddles seem pretty genderless to me. xD
But though they exist, it is difficult to use alternative pronouns for people unfamiliar with them. Heck, a lot of people wouldn't even read text that uses alternative pronouns for it is confusing.

I think that to avoid tarring the innocent image of Squiddles with all the baggage that comes with gender binaries, all we need to do is avoid any sign of cultural/behavioral significance of genders. AKA, don't mention gender stereotypes (ex.: scream like a girl, boys stink, etc. ) as squiddles wouldn't have any, and simply keep in mind that your squiddle makes little distinction between genders.
Genders would just be a convention to make the usage of pronouns in english easier.

[BlueRaffeKin]

That sounds awesome! But I don't think we should make gender obvious, even if it's flipped. How would we even do that anyways? They are either cephalopods or horrorterrors.

For some reason I always think of (and pronounce, and type) cephalopods as cephalaphopods.

@Edo Yeah. And also one that actually is happy!
@Mythee The random thing sounds best. We should probably each say how many we want to make. I personally want at least two. It would be best if everyone took even amounts of characters what with the one land to two squiddles thing.

[Gordon]

everything is multiplied by 4 so... perhaps there are 16 forms of love and Tangling etiquettes to cover.

Are we tangle buddies? or does this tangle in which we tang something more?

[BlueRaffeKin]

everything...more?

Haha. Yeah, maybe. Go ahead and write it if you want. It might be good!

I think that squiddle romance is based off of friendship. (Not that love doesn't exist, it's just not considered very important. or it is considered as a form of friendship.)

[Mythee]

My support for the squiddle romance is friendship-based idea is furious and unwavering.

I'm going to go ahead and claim two squiddles as well then. Good call, Raffe.

[Edo Nagori]

For now I too will just claim two squiddles.

Waiting for the titles and aspects to be completely paired up though.

[BlueRaffeKin]

That's 6 squiddles claimed. We have quite a lot we need to make, so I'll claim another two.
We will only be posting our characters once we cull the rest of the aspects, invent some more medium aspects, and then randomly match them together. And then there's still a bunch of stuff to do with culture and places and stuff.
So yeah, we still have a lot to do.

[Gordon]

I suppose I will claim 2 as well... for now.

[Edo Nagori]

I'd assume we would.

I'll only take more squiddles once we figure out exactly how many squiddles each person is allowed to have.

[Mythee]

I think 4 should be max... then the minimum number of players would be 12. It's not much for such a huge session.

[Gordon]

you know how the kids and the trolls are actually much taller than their sprites suggest? Perhaps the squiddles are also a bit more lanky or bulky irl... like in [s] and in other fancy things they will be rendered in a more serious manner.

heres some concept ideas based on the concept squiddles I drew earlier.

[Mythee]

As awesome as purple lumberjack squid is, why would we render them in a more serious manner? >: Homestuck is usually rendered in a chibi stumpy simplified version of everything.

[BlueRaffeKin]

Okay! that's okay.
Will we be making an actual adventure out of this?
(Just wondering.)
A maximum of 4 or 6 would work fine.
What with the maximum amount of characters we might have to go recruiting or something.
We might have enough though.
A maximum will probably be good. we don't want a person suddenly trying to take over everything without considering what everyone else wants. I'm pretty sure this is collaborative. (if one person had like 40 of the characters then they could pretty much do whatever they wanted...)

@mythee You know, sometimes for added dramatic effect we get more realistic images.

Updated list with wind and shade,

1. Angels
2. Brains
3. Caves
4. Clockwork
5. Dew
6. Fire
7. Flow
8. Frogs
9. Frost
10. Glass
11. Haze
12. Heat
13. Light
14. Little Cubes
15. Maps
16. Melody
17. Mirth
18. Pulse
19. Quartz
20. Rain
21. Rays
22. Sand
23. Shade
24. Silence
25. Tea
26. Tents
27. Thought
28. Treasure
29. Wind
30. Wrath
31. Zephyr

So we only need to make 17 new medium aspects!

[Gordon]

I'm ok with a max of 4.

And mythee they have realistic images all the time in homestuck. Maybe not at first but it's a constant in later acts.
just off the Map thumbnails alone


perhaps realistic isn't the best way to describe it... I meant, more badass, or detailed.... or... to put it mildly, any time they don't use some variant of the sprite and draw an entirely original image of said character.

[Mythee]

Just add 17 of those from the Aspects list that aren't already in your list and then we can cull the remaining Aspects list down to 24 and it'll be perfect? ovo

And yeah Hero Mode (that's what the more 'serious' art style in Homestuck is called btw!) is great and all but I had misinterpreted what you meant. Sorry for making you put up a gallery like that. xDD

[Gordon]

no problem... you'll have to forgive me for not spouting the lingo you whippersnappers are flinging.

the more I look at this purple squiddle I made, the more I like it. I'm probably going to use it when we start.

you think we should compile a list of 48 weapons as well? lol

[Mythee]

Augh no, please, enough with the lists... xD They probably all have bubblekind/inkkind basic strife specibi anyways, so not everyone needs a unique weapon. Mine might, I don't know, pick up some random stupid object weapon along the way.