i know this is douchey to say since i watched that rant but i really can't help it
i think rose's new va fits the role better :[[[[[[[[
kanaya sounds good but i imagined her sounding a little more forceful for some reason
not up to me tho! ??
also i feel the current narrator is brilliant for earlier acts but i think that for more recent ones like acts 5 and 6, a more serious narrator would make more sense. this one is a bit too whimsical for the dramatic turns the series makes in this time
It was actually I, the Narrator who suggested that we change Narrators for Act 5 Act 1/2 seeing as though yes, I'm more lighthearted and whimsical. Which is strange, because don't British people always playing the dark bad guy?? Who knows.
Either way we will be changing Narrator, and I'll be taking a backseat, where I will solely manage / lead the CoLab from the shadows.
I'm more lighthearted and whimsical. Which is strange, because don't British people always playing the dark bad guy?? Who knows.
It's what a Badger does.
I know the feeling man...we Russians have been at that role in the Americas for years on the ends.
It was actually I, the Narrator who suggested that we change Narrators for Act 5 Act 1/2 seeing as though yes, I'm more lighthearted and whimsical. Which is strange, because don't British people always playing the dark bad guy?? Who knows.
Either way we will be changing Narrator, and I'll be taking a backseat, where I will solely manage / lead the CoLab from the shadows.
It's what a Badger does.
awesome
i was initially thinking that the whimsy could be put in for the most lighthearted moment but it would be jarring as well as being an obvious indicator to the audience whether the moment is lighthearted or serious or the scene to come etc
This is the CoLab premier of vexatiousIdler's Sollux and Biggs's Gamzee, and also features Paul's Karkat, conceptualWellspring's Tavros, and RyokoUri's Terezi. Edited by Pacman911 (our Wayward Vagabond).
Bonus videos such as this are always done spontaneously, but hopefully we'll be able to do some more in the future that preview our other troll VAs. If you (yes, YOU) have or know a comic you'd like us to dub, send the request to letsreadhomestuck@gmail.com . No guarantee we'll be able to do it, since we're very busy, but we do love doing these as a change of pace.
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Just a quick note to say, this has been an entirely delightful way to waste an afternoon whilst I should've been working. Applause (if a single person can, by themselves, applaud) is due to every voice actor (including _both_ incarnations of Rose) and whichever brave (foolhardy?) soul is editing all this together.
A small question, for curiosity mainly:
Have you ever considered having somebody play the Player? That is, to read the commands to which the narrator then replies? It can sound a bit strange when the narrator's reading them verbatim then answering himself, or using the "it is suggested that..." construction when the narration makes no sense without the command. I imagine this is rather too big a change to make at this sort of juncture though, and would become redundant getting into Act 5 anyway with the diminishing significance of commands.
An even smaller question: is it intentional that John (and only John) sounds like he's being recorded over a phone connection? At first I thought it was a stylistic thing, replacing text chats with something sounding like VOIP, but nobody else sounds that way so I guess it's just a technical limitation for that particular speaker?
Having somebody play the role of the Player would have been a good idea, but like you said, it's too late to implement such a construct at this juncture. But yes, if we had the opportunity to do it all over again, that would be one element we'd probably change with the benefit of hindsight. As for John, yeah, it's a result of his mic. He's looking into getting a better one.
Also, today's episode is going to be a bit late. It'll probably still go up today (EST), but late today. There are a few problems with the episode and our editor is busy until at least 6 EST.
IMPORTANT: Yes, there is a new VA for Rose. This was done due to various circumstances. Our new Rose is the lovely Duckums.
Also this is my first episode as the voice of Kanaya! I'm naturally very excited. Enjoy!
The first actor I searched for was the one for Kanaya, because many people give her those British accents that the island is quite weary of. For such a hard character, you're doing a fabulous job! But my suggestion would be to soften her accent.
The first actor I searched for was the one for Kanaya, because many people give her those British accents that the island is quite weary of. For such a hard character, you're doing a fabulous job! But my suggestion would be to soften her accent.
I'm curious what you and others think about this.
UMMMMMM.....I'm just going to link you to this clip of me talking normally and let you stew in your own embarrassment at telling an Englishwoman to stop being so English. http://faisdm.tumblr.com/post/200655...and-what-it-is
EDIT ....unless you want chirpy northern Kanaya.
By Eck Rose Your Sarcasm Is Reet Annoying
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UMMMMMM.....I'm just going to link you to this clip of me talking normally and let you stew in your own embarrassment at telling an Englishwoman to stop being so English. http://faisdm.tumblr.com/post/200655...and-what-it-is
EDIT ....unless you want chirpy northern Kanaya.
By Eck Rose Your Sarcasm Is Reet Annoying
I can't even tell you all how much I love all of your voice actors. You're all doing an amazing job, I look foward to Lets Read: Homestuck! episodes more than actual updates at this point, I think :P I must say I'm missing Badger's amazing Brittish voice the past few weeks but the Midnight Crew narrator is also great and fits the role amazingly!
Another note, I'm so glad Sypher got a part! I was really rooting for him to get the Gamzee part, since I know he can do a good sober Gamzee. From the comic you posted with the Gamzee actor, I'm sure he'll do a great job Also, dat Clubs deuce.
UMMMMMM.....I'm just going to link you to this clip of me talking normally and let you stew in your own embarrassment at telling an Englishwoman to stop being so English. http://faisdm.tumblr.com/post/200655...and-what-it-is
EDIT ....unless you want chirpy northern Kanaya.
By Eck Rose Your Sarcasm Is Reet Annoying
clears it up and I was looking forward to your reply.
I'm not embarassed. And I never suggested that you should be either. Mistakes happen, so I owe you an apology. >^^>
*listens*
I still have to say that while having an accent isn't wrong, Kanaya's lines are already very expressive. Adding too much "flavour" to that is like... adding too many spices?
My criticism was open to criticism. I didn't give more details in my previous post, because many people dislike details. I took the chance that you might be English, because I thought this advice was worth it, even if it meant getting some cynical attacks in return.
clears it up and I was looking forward to your reply.
I'm not embarassed. And I never suggested that you should be either. Mistakes happen, so I owe you an apology. >^^>
*listens*
I still have to say that while having an accent isn't wrong, Kanaya's lines are already very expressive. Adding too much "flavour" to that is like... adding too many spices?
My criticism was open to criticism. I didn't give more details in my previous post, because many people dislike details. I took the chance that you might be English, because I thought this advice was worth it, even if it meant getting some cynical attacks in return.
I wasn't a dick.
I wasn't saying you were a dick, but I'm not entirely sure how helpful it is to tell me not to speak with an accent. The thing you don't seem to understand here is that American is an accent, not an absence of accent. There is no such thing as an absence of accent. Even computer generated robotic voices speak with discernibly British or American pronunciation. The American accent is extremely distinctive and very different from my English, ie. English English, ie. English from the country English comes from. What you're telling me to do, ie. to 'tone down the Britishness of the accent', is actually not that at all; you're telling me to speak more like an American. Think about that for a second. You are telling me to speak more like your dialect because my dialect is different from yours and you don't like it.
I'm not being English for shits and giggles. I don't turn off my microphone and go "whew, now I can talk normally again after trolling those Yanks" in a Michigan twang. I talk like this. To me, to everybody who lives in my country, it's not 'extra spice', it's how I talk, all day, every day. I get up in the morning and I talk like this. I walk into a cafe and I order a cup of tea like this. I talk like this because I'm English. It's not my fault if American is a comparatively flat dialect with lazier enunciation and much less pitch variation so by comparison everything I say sounds epic and theatrical compared to when most people in the US say it. It's entirely relative.
Kanaya is a fabulous Vampire who enunciates like crazy and I play her as I see fit. The people in charge of this project liked my take on the character and cast me in the role and so far the feedback has been very, very positive. As I said earlier in the thread to somebody who thought I was under-emoting (hahaha and now somebody thinks I'm over-emoting), I can't please everybody, but changing my accent is the absolute last thing I will ever consider doing, not least because if I 'tone down' the Thespian RP accent I put on for Kanaya, all you'll get is my natural accent which sounds like something out of Wallace and Gromit and doesn't fit the character at all.
I wasn't saying you were a dick, but I'm not entirely sure how helpful it is to tell me not to speak with an accent. The thing you don't seem to understand here is that American is an accent, not an absence of accent. There is no such thing as an absence of accent. Even computer generated robotic voices speak with discernibly British or American pronunciation. The American accent is extremely distinctive and very different from my English, ie. English English, ie. English from the country English comes from. What you're telling me to do, ie. to 'tone down the Britishness of the accent', is actually not that at all; you're telling me to speak more like an American. Think about that for a second. You are telling me to speak more like your dialect because my dialect is different from yours and you don't like it.
I'm not being English for shits and giggles. I don't turn off my microphone and go "whew, now I can talk normally again after trolling those Yanks" in a Michigan twang. I talk like this. To me, to everybody who lives in my country, it's not 'extra spice', it's how I talk, all day, every day. I get up in the morning and I talk like this. I walk into a cafe and I order a cup of tea like this. I talk like this because I'm English. It's not my fault if American is a comparatively flat dialect with lazier enunciation and much less pitch variation so by comparison everything I say sounds epic and theatrical compared to when most people in the US say it. It's entirely relative.
Kanaya is a fabulous Vampire who enunciates like crazy and I play her as I see fit. The people in charge of this project liked my take on the character and cast me in the role and so far the feedback has been very, very positive. As I said earlier in the thread to somebody who thought I was under-emoting (hahaha and now somebody thinks I'm over-emoting), I can't please everybody, but changing my accent is the absolute last thing I will ever consider doing, not least because if I 'tone down' the Thespian RP accent I put on for Kanaya, all you'll get is my natural accent which sounds like something out of Wallace and Gromit and doesn't fit the character at all.
Why is respect for someone's opinion so hard to come by?
I give up, because you didn't seem to understand or care for my suggestion. Give me a little credit for thinking things through. I'm not dumb to actually tell you to try American accents, because I'd be contradicting myself. I live in England, for one thing. What I had was constructive feedback and I never imagined you'd be so bitter about it.
I'm sorry to have demanded respect for my opinions. I'm not an idiot, like you suggested.
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Just to add, when I said "softening" your accent, I didn't mean Americanising it. You know very well that English accents are a multicoloured gradient very far from the "American vs English/British" that you implied for some reason. Softening doesn't mean making it more American. But I'm, again, not stupid to insist. You do what you can do with your accent, because this project is much too big for me to be bothered by the smaller flaws. Your cynical attitude bothered me more, so assume that I'm retracting my suggestion. We're making this thread unpleasant for others.
Your voice is spot on. I never got a chance to say it through all this antagosnism... And here I tried to keep this post short. My short posts didn't mean I had little to say and they weren't an invitation for assumptions. I was merely probing your open-mindedness before wasting time on a lost cause. You assumed far more than I stated.
Why is respect for someone's opinion so hard to come by?
I give up, because you didn't seem to understand or care for my suggestion. Give me a little credit for thinking things through. I'm not dumb to actually tell you to try American accents, because I'd be contradicting myself. I live in England, for one thing. What I had was constructive feedback and I never imagined you'd be so bitter about it.
I'm sorry to have demanded respect for my opinions. I'm not an idiot, like you suggested.
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Just to add, when I said "softening" your accent, I didn't mean Americanising it. You know very well that English accents are a multicoloured gradient very far from the "American vs English/British" that you implied for some reason. Softening doesn't mean making it more American. But I'm, again, not stupid to insist. You do what you can do with your accent, because this project is much too big for me to be bothered by the smaller flaws. Your cynical attitude bothered me more, so assume that I'm retracting my suggestion. We're making this thread unpleasant for others.
Your voice is spot on. I never got a chance to say it through all this antagosnism... And here I tried to keep this post short. My short posts didn't mean I had little to say and they weren't an invitation for assumptions. I was merely probing your open-mindedness before wasting time on a lost cause. You assumed far more than I stated.
You're allowed to hold that opinion, but you weren't clear at all as to what you'd wanted. Also I assumed you weren't from England due to your apparent inability to recognise a genuine English accent, I don't think it's surprising I'd come to that conclusion. Also you refereed to England as 'that island' (perhaps I've been studying Japanese too long, but 'that' rather than 'this' to me heavily implies the object of conversation is not at the present location of the speaker). You chose to make short posts that did not clearly express your sentiment in full, but rather came off as nitpicking my accent and I was offended because I'm used to people disliking the accent merely for being a non-American accent. I've had to put up with this crap for eight years of voice acting now,and naturally I'm more than a little cynical at this point. Too cynical? Perhaps. If you make short posts, you naturally run the risk of people misreading the intended meaning. You took that risk and I misunderstood your comments as being just more of what I've been getting for years; people not liking that I have an English accent because I don't sound American, or not liking my accent because it's a real English accent and doesn't sound like most Americans' preconceived ideas of what one sounds like. I apologise for the misunderstanding, but I couldn't see anything that really made it clear what you wanted from me other than, apparently, to have less of an accent.
If you are trying to make serious constructive criticism here, could you be more clear on exactly what you think I should change about my performance and why you think it'd be an improvement? You said 'soften' but I don't know what you want softening. Are the consonants too hard and you want those softening? Are my hard Northern vowels creeping through too much? Do you think the enunciation is excessive and you want that toning down to a more natural level? Was the delivery too heavy and stage-like and you want a less thespian, more conversational sound? What do you think Kanaya should sound like and how is my performance not living up to this?
If you can clearly express what you would like me to change, then I will take your opinion into account and keep it in mind in future performances. Though be aware that your opinion is just one of a multitude of voices all shouting different, contradictory advice at me and I can in the end only attempt to come to some kind of compromise.
Ok, I'll have another go at it. I'm too used to "too long; didn't read", so I suppress my desire to write long posts for those I don't know. I understand your general frustration. That's why I wasn't really upset by your replies. Mostly surprised.
I don't mind you not adapting to my feedback, as long as you understand what I mean. I live in England, but I'm not English. (hence my.. confusion?) I'm also not a voice actor. You're a better judge than I am as long as you see where I'm getting at.
Most of the things which were unexpected when I listened to your Kanaya voice acting had to do with the flow of her sentences. To me, it seems like there isn't enough rhythm. Some words interrupt the speech and make her sound as if she tries a little too hard to "enunciate words carefully". It might just be me, but I'd like to hear a Kanaya who speaks carefully, but doesn't separate the words in the sentence. Roughly "talking clearly without talking slow".. if it makes sense.
I went through all the lines a few times. What struck me the most (and I love Kanaya) was that she talks very (, very) slowly compared to the other characters. I think it interferes with the dialogue. This might be intentional (and I don't disagree with the idea), but I think the difference is too noticeable after a few minutes of getting used to people talking fast. When put against Rose, she sounds intelligent, but also a little too awkward, possibly because of that. (I did my best to strip away the context)
I'm wary of using the word "robotic", so as not to seem more rude.
I know your opinion on the following, but I never got the chance to explain. You're, of course, free to do as you see fit. I'm personally not for a Kanaya voiced with Received Pronunciation, because it sounds very unusual to most people. Surprising, even. That's one of the things that I meant by "softening" the accent - making it less uncommon. In many arts and crafts, you usually don't go for a medium (here: the accent) which stands out more than the content which you want to express (here: emotions and meaning of sentences). It makes it unusual and those not used to the accent might focus more on the way the content is expressed rather than the content itself. If it's too "exotic", it may also make characters' emotions harder to notice or decipher. I wouldn't be telling you this if (and I didn't until now) I weren't sure that it wasn't your usual accent. I'd never ask someone to speak in a way which is unnatural to them, because the result would sound unnatural to everybody. Certainly not American, if you aren't one. I am saying all this because you may be more used to certain speech patterns than the rest of the world. This last point is the reason why I insisted on this matter. I don't mind if this piece of advice is thrown together with the other contradictory feedback, as long as it is.
17:40
I hope that you understand what I meant with those annotations and that there's at least some new information there.
"-" means that words are too close together... It could be due to breathing, but I put them anyway.
"--" means that the words seem disconnected. They appear to interrupt the sentence, especially when I'm not reading the dialogue while listening.
"+" means that I like it. (or ++ too, if I didn't remove them)
these mark the spaces between the words or after sentences. Some may be wrong even in my view, but they're not the easiest thing to insert in a dialogue
{comments refer to a large portion of text}
I did my best to ignore the meaning of the lines when judging, with the exception of what I perceived as nuances.
I left out Rose (sorry!)
GA: Why--Is It That When The Subject Of Temporal--Mechanics--Is--Broached Your+Sparing+Human+Intellects+Instantly+Assume+The +Most+Ingratiating+Posture+Of+Surrender+Imaginable--
GA: Time Is Not That+Difficult+To+Understand+
GA: It Is A Utility--That A Universe May Resort To In-Order-To-Advance A Desired Degree-Of-Complexity
GA: Or--May Not Resort--To If That Is The Case
GA: Its All Pretty Pedestrian+
GA: But+No+
GA: When Time Travel Comes Up You Present The Face That-A-Man-Shows{a little too fast} When The Breeze Gradually Alerts Him To His Absence Of Netherdressings++
GA: I Dont See How We Are To Properly Agitate You All If You Continue To Insist On Failing To Understand Basic Concepts Which Common Infants Effortlessly Manage To Describe Via Scrawlings In Their Own Puddles Of Sloppy Discharge {long sentence, I'll give you that :P}
TT: Have we spoken before?
GA: Yes+
GA: In+The+Future
TT: You and your friends never cease to invent ways to strengthen the credibility of your assertions.
GA: Oh+My+It+Is+Your+Human+Sarcasm+Again+
GA: I-- Enjoy+ Listening+ To+ It+ And+ I+ Wish+ Doing+ So+ Could+ Serve+ As+ My+ Primary+ Form+ Of+ Recreation+
GA: There-- See-- I+Just--Did--It--Too--
GA: Saying The Opposite Thing To Emphasize My Contempt { -- }
GA: But+Suddenly+I+Feel+More+Primitive+And+Hate+Myself +A+Little+More+
GA: It Was Like This Funny Miracle That+Just+Happened+In+My+Heart+
TT: I would admire the sophistication of you and your fellow future-dwellers a little more if you seemed to be aware the word "human" only functions as that sort of adjective in bad science fiction.
TT: But I won't be rude and change the subject.
TT: There's a still a bit of unflagellated straw poking out of your rhetorical effigy over here.
GA: Oh+Dear
GA: No+We+Arent+From+"The+Future"+
GA: But We Are-All-Already In Agreement That You Dont Get It And Never+Will+
TT: I thought you said we spoke in the future.
GA: We Did {+}
GA: Your Future {+}
GA: For Me It Was Only A Couple Minutes Ago
TT: I understand.
TT: You exist in some temporal stratum through which you have communication access to various points of my timeline.
TT: It's not that complicated.
GA: Yes+Thats+Right+
GA: Will You Try To Talk Some Sense Into Your Idiot Friends
GA: So That We May-Proceed-To-Bother-Them All--On--More Rational+Terms+
TT: I try to every day, with mixed results.
TT: But you see, it's not that I don't understand you.
TT: It's just that I don't believe you.
TT: Because it's nonsense.
TT: Albeit persistent and coordinated nonsense.
TT: Why would a bunch of temporally dislocated trolls want to harass a group of friends throughout completely random points in time?
GA: I+Will+Admit+This+Campaign+Of+Provocation--Wasnt+All That Well Thought Out+ {the tone shifts a little bit ~~~}
GA: Dont Tell Anyone I Said That {+}
TT: Alright.
TT: Maybe you should get some trolling tips from us humans.
TT: Our sparing intellects are probably better suited to it.
GA: Yeah+Maybe
GA: Why+Dont+We+Be+Friends {+}
TT: You want to be my friend?
GA: I Think So {+}
GA: I Think Were Supposed To {+}
GA: You Suggested-As Much Earlier
TT: You mean I did in the future?
GA: Yes A+Couple+Minutes+Ago+ {this is one of my favourites. I liked the speed. I am intentionally leaving out the "Yes", to make my point clearer. But I liked that one too.}
TT: Probably because I remembered you mentioning it in the conversation we're having now?
GA: Thats Likely {less natural than previous lines}
TT: Hmm.
TT: Your commitment to this roleplaying scenario is intriguing.
TT: What choice do I have but to accept?
Feel free to comment on as much as you want from there. It's kind of big though.
Ok, I'll have another go at it. I'm too used to "too long; didn't read", so I suppress my desire to write long posts for those I don't know. I understand your general frustration. That's why I wasn't really upset by your replies. Mostly surprised.
I don't mind you not adapting to my feedback, as long as you understand what I mean. I live in England, but I'm not English. (hence my.. confusion?) I'm also not a voice actor. You're a better judge than I am as long as you see where I'm getting at.
Most of the things which were unexpected when I listened to your Kanaya voice acting had to do with the flow of her sentences. To me, it seems like there isn't enough rhythm. Some words interrupt the speech and make her sound as if she tries a little too hard to "enunciate words carefully". It might just be me, but I'd like to hear a Kanaya who speaks carefully, but doesn't separate the words in the sentence. Roughly "talking clearly without talking slow".. if it makes sense.
I went through all the lines a few times. What struck me the most (and I love Kanaya) was that she talks very (, very) slowly compared to the other characters. I think it interferes with the dialogue. This might be intentional (and I don't disagree with the idea), but I think the difference is too noticeable after a few minutes of getting used to people talking fast. When put against Rose, she sounds intelligent, but also a little too awkward, possibly because of that. (I did my best to strip away the context)
I'm wary of using the word "robotic", so as not to seem more rude.
I know your opinion on the following, but I never got the chance to explain. You're, of course, free to do as you see fit. I'm personally not for a Kanaya voiced with Received Pronunciation, because it sounds very unusual to most people. Surprising, even. That's one of the things that I meant by "softening" the accent - making it less uncommon. In many arts and crafts, you usually don't go for a medium (here: the accent) which stands out more than the content which you want to express (here: emotions and meaning of sentences). It makes it unusual and those not used to the accent might focus more on the way the content is expressed rather than the content itself. If it's too "exotic", it may also make characters' emotions harder to notice or decipher. I wouldn't be telling you this if (and I didn't until now) I weren't sure that it wasn't your usual accent. I'd never ask someone to speak in a way which is unnatural to them, because the result would sound unnatural to everybody. Certainly not American, if you aren't one. I am saying all this because you may be more used to certain speech patterns than the rest of the world. This last point is the reason why I insisted on this matter. I don't mind if this piece of advice is thrown together with the other contradictory feedback, as long as it is.
17:40
I hope that you understand what I meant with those annotations and that there's at least some new information there.
"-" means that words are too close together... It could be due to breathing, but I put them anyway.
"--" means that the words seem disconnected. They appear to interrupt the sentence, especially when I'm not reading the dialogue while listening.
"+" means that I like it. (or ++ too, if I didn't remove them)
these mark the spaces between the words or after sentences. Some may be wrong even in my view, but they're not the easiest thing to insert in a dialogue
{comments refer to a large portion of text}
I did my best to ignore the meaning of the lines when judging, with the exception of what I perceived as nuances.
I left out Rose (sorry!)
GA: Why--Is It That When The Subject Of Temporal--Mechanics--Is--Broached Your+Sparing+Human+Intellects+Instantly+Assume+The +Most+Ingratiating+Posture+Of+Surrender+Imaginable--
GA: Time Is Not That+Difficult+To+Understand+
GA: It Is A Utility--That A Universe May Resort To In-Order-To-Advance A Desired Degree-Of-Complexity
GA: Or--May Not Resort--To If That Is The Case
GA: Its All Pretty Pedestrian+
GA: But+No+
GA: When Time Travel Comes Up You Present The Face That-A-Man-Shows{a little too fast} When The Breeze Gradually Alerts Him To His Absence Of Netherdressings++
GA: I Dont See How We Are To Properly Agitate You All If You Continue To Insist On Failing To Understand Basic Concepts Which Common Infants Effortlessly Manage To Describe Via Scrawlings In Their Own Puddles Of Sloppy Discharge {long sentence, I'll give you that :P}
TT: Have we spoken before?
GA: Yes+
GA: In+The+Future
TT: You and your friends never cease to invent ways to strengthen the credibility of your assertions.
GA: Oh+My+It+Is+Your+Human+Sarcasm+Again+
GA: I-- Enjoy+ Listening+ To+ It+ And+ I+ Wish+ Doing+ So+ Could+ Serve+ As+ My+ Primary+ Form+ Of+ Recreation+
GA: There-- See-- I+Just--Did--It--Too--
GA: Saying The Opposite Thing To Emphasize My Contempt { -- }
GA: But+Suddenly+I+Feel+More+Primitive+And+Hate+Myself +A+Little+More+
GA: It Was Like This Funny Miracle That+Just+Happened+In+My+Heart+
TT: I would admire the sophistication of you and your fellow future-dwellers a little more if you seemed to be aware the word "human" only functions as that sort of adjective in bad science fiction.
TT: But I won't be rude and change the subject.
TT: There's a still a bit of unflagellated straw poking out of your rhetorical effigy over here.
GA: Oh+Dear
GA: No+We+Arent+From+"The+Future"+
GA: But We Are-All-Already In Agreement That You Dont Get It And Never+Will+
TT: I thought you said we spoke in the future.
GA: We Did {+}
GA: Your Future {+}
GA: For Me It Was Only A Couple Minutes Ago
TT: I understand.
TT: You exist in some temporal stratum through which you have communication access to various points of my timeline.
TT: It's not that complicated.
GA: Yes+Thats+Right+
GA: Will You Try To Talk Some Sense Into Your Idiot Friends
GA: So That We May-Proceed-To-Bother-Them All--On--More Rational+Terms+
TT: I try to every day, with mixed results.
TT: But you see, it's not that I don't understand you.
TT: It's just that I don't believe you.
TT: Because it's nonsense.
TT: Albeit persistent and coordinated nonsense.
TT: Why would a bunch of temporally dislocated trolls want to harass a group of friends throughout completely random points in time?
GA: I+Will+Admit+This+Campaign+Of+Provocation--Wasnt+All That Well Thought Out+ {the tone shifts a little bit ~~~}
GA: Dont Tell Anyone I Said That {+}
TT: Alright.
TT: Maybe you should get some trolling tips from us humans.
TT: Our sparing intellects are probably better suited to it.
GA: Yeah+Maybe
GA: Why+Dont+We+Be+Friends {+}
TT: You want to be my friend?
GA: I Think So {+}
GA: I Think Were Supposed To {+}
GA: You Suggested-As Much Earlier
TT: You mean I did in the future?
GA: Yes A+Couple+Minutes+Ago+ {this is one of my favourites. I liked the speed. I am intentionally leaving out the "Yes", to make my point clearer. But I liked that one too.}
TT: Probably because I remembered you mentioning it in the conversation we're having now?
GA: Thats Likely {less natural than previous lines}
TT: Hmm.
TT: Your commitment to this roleplaying scenario is intriguing.
TT: What choice do I have but to accept?
Feel free to comment on as much as you want from there. It's kind of big though.
Okay, thanks, that's a lot more useful. I am somewhat bemused that you consider Recieved Pronunuciation uncommon though, given that it's the standard 'English' accent used by news anchors, stage actors, academics and the like all over the country (not to mention The Queen) and considered by most outside the UK to be what a 'British' accent sounds like, as well as the accent taught in elocution lessons. My natural accent meanwhile is South Cumbrian, a dialect that's spoken by people in a small peninsula of the second most sparsely populated county in England. Most people hearing my natural accent ask what the hell it is because the only way you'll likely hear it is on the UK cookery show 'The Hairy Bikers' which has Dave Myers, a presenter who shares my town of birth.
The rhythm is a side effect of Kanaya's sentence structures. They are not natural. Seriously. Try reading some of them out loud. That pesterlog in particular is one of the absolute worst, and the group can attest, I rerecorded my lines at least ten times over the course of a few months. It certainly was not the pesterlog I'd have liked as my very first. Starting a conversation with "Why is it that when the subject of temporal mechanics is broached your sparing human intellects instantly assume the most ingratiating posture of surrender imaginable." with somebody completely out of nowhere is almost impossible to make not sound awkward.
I was also worried about my speed since a bunch of people complain about VAs talking too fast in our production, I speak fairly fast naturally and I do have a non-American accent so could be hard to understand (I remember when I lived in Japan, one American guy I greeted every morning only admitted after we'd been living in the same building for months that he couldn't understand a word I said), plus I had these insane sentences to get my mouth around and on top of that, Kanaya is supposed to enunciate clearly. Also she's meant to be bitter and scornful at this point. In chronological terms, she's just had that disastrous conversation with John pretending to be Rose, so I played her extremely weary and dry, sort of Alan Rickman esque.
I will take this on board, however, and see what I can do with it. The pesterlogs after that one are all comparatively smooth sailing; I guess Hussie relaxed into to writing her? I will have to be careful though, as when I talk more smoothly and quickly, I tend to veer into Northern pronunciation, which....well, even I'm willing to admit my natural accent is absolutely hilarious. I'll keep practising and see if I can keep improving my delivery. Thank you for the detailed commentary.
Okay, thanks, that's a lot more useful. I am somewhat bemused that you consider Recieved Pronunuciation uncommon though, given that it's the standard 'English' accent used by news anchors, stage actors, academics and the like all over the country (not to mention The Queen) and considered by most outside the UK to be what a 'British' accent sounds like, as well as the accent taught in elocution lessons. My natural accent meanwhile is South Cumbrian, a dialect that's spoken by people in a small peninsula of the second most sparsely populated county in England. Most people hearing my natural accent ask what the hell it is because the only way you'll likely hear it is on the UK cookery show 'The Hairy Bikers' which has Dave Myers, a presenter who shares my town of birth.
The rhythm is a side effect of Kanaya's sentence structures. They are not natural. Seriously. Try reading some of them out loud. That pesterlog in particular is one of the absolute worst, and the group can attest, I rerecorded my lines at least ten times over the course of a few months. It certainly was not the pesterlog I'd have liked as my very first. Starting a conversation with "Why is it that when the subject of temporal mechanics is broached your sparing human intellects instantly assume the most ingratiating posture of surrender imaginable." with somebody completely out of nowhere is almost impossible to make not sound awkward.
I was also worried about my speed since a bunch of people complain about VAs talking too fast in our production, I speak fairly fast naturally and I do have a non-American accent so could be hard to understand (I remember when I lived in Japan, one American guy I greeted every morning only admitted after we'd been living in the same building for months that he couldn't understand a word I said), plus I had these insane sentences to get my mouth around and on top of that, Kanaya is supposed to enunciate clearly. Also she's meant to be bitter and scornful at this point. In chronological terms, she's just had that disastrous conversation with John pretending to be Rose, so I played her extremely weary and dry, sort of Alan Rickman esque.
I will take this on board, however, and see what I can do with it. The pesterlogs after that one are all comparatively smooth sailing; I guess Hussie relaxed into to writing her? I will have to be careful though, as when I talk more smoothly and quickly, I tend to veer into Northern pronunciation, which....well, even I'm willing to admit my natural accent is absolutely hilarious. I'll keep practising and see if I can keep improving my delivery. Thank you for the detailed commentary.
I'm glad that it was sort of helpful. I hoped for that from the start. I understood your points.
I only found out about this project yesterday, but I'd like to hear variations at some point. Now I feel oddly responsible for whatever "disaster" my advice may lead to. (not that I don't trust your judgement xD)
Hello, I was wondering if Lrd English would be included, because of his few lines during Act 5 Act 2. If so, I would like to take a crack at voicing him, if you don't mind.
Originally Posted by Ace of Dark-Hearts
And so began a slow descent into insane fanhood
"Join us, join us," the others cried to the heavens. Yaridovich knew that it was all hope was lost.
He lept over the ledge, the mass of rabid and writhing fans rushing towards him.
Everything went dark.
Dark-Hearts, as some may say.
"HE HE HE."
I'm bored.
Originally Posted by phoenix713
The sad thing is, I'll probably never get sigquoted. Not even this post ironically.
Yaridovich23 tears out one of your canines
[7:12:52 PM] Charmander: uHH, that WAS, uMM hardly NECESSARY
[7:13:04 PM] Yaridovich23: ...
[7:13:11 PM] Yaridovich23: What sort of quirk is that?
[7:13:17 PM] Yaridovich23: Is that Tavros?
[7:13:19 PM] Charmander: Half Tavros (,:
[7:13:31 PM] Yaridovich23: And half...?
[7:13:35 PM] Charmander: Me
[7:13:49 PM] Yaridovich23: I noticed a lack of English slang.
[7:13:50 PM] Yaridovich23: F-
[7:14:55 PM] Charmander: Oh golly gosh old chap
I'm terribly sorry, Buckingham Palace, tea and whatnot
Hello, I was wondering if Lrd English would be included, because of his few lines during Act 5 Act 2. If so, I would like to take a crack at voicing him, if you don't mind.
Sorry, that role will be handled by actorsAllusion, who also voices Doc Scratch. Thanks for reminding me that I need to update the OP.
It might be a little early to point this out, but you're missing a few roles. Serenity takes over the narration shortly before [S] Wake, I believe. And then some of the trolls' lusii have brief Spritelogs (Kanaya's and Terezi's are the only ones I can remember). And as for the Jake thing (I read a few posts up that it would be considered a spoiler to give him a voice?) I don't think a voice really counts as a spoiler. He's just supposed to be some pen pal, and the connection between "pen pal" and "Jake English" is made just around his introduction, so it's not really spoiling anything.
Serenity and the sprites will be handled in house, like all other very minor roles. Much like the Felt voices in the intermission, we'll figure them out once we actually need them. As for Jake, we are not going to cast him early and we are absolutely not going to have him narrate those letters. We have spoken about this at length, and regardless of whether or not it's a spoiler, we are not going to cast Jake or any of the new characters until they have been given time and room to develop more. Despite the fact that we've been with them for almost half a year, there is still a lot we don't know about these characters, and to cast them now would be irresponsible.
We're moving. Due to a shift and management and a change in goals, we have made a NEW THREAD. As soon as I hit send on this post I will be contacting a mod to lock this thread.