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    Re: Homestuck Sheet Music

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    oh wait then you'd need to play a 4 against 13 polyrhythm
    More like "oh wait then you'd need to play a 4 against 13 polyrhythm "

    I love polyrhythms and weird time shit, even if they're really hard to play!
    So fun to listen tooo.

    Also my dismay keeps increasing as people keep dropping the main songs I want to learn to play like Get Up and Keepers oh noooo. Then again I hate transcribing chords too so I can comisserate. :I
    I'm sorry I dropped that, I feel really fucking awful about it. It's like my favorite piano piece on the album, but I'm amazingly shitty at playing by ear.

    Also I'm bad at theory, since I'm still kind of a beginner. What's a 4 against 13 polyrhythm?
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    Re: Homestuck Sheet Music

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    Also I'm bad at theory, since I'm still kind of a beginner. What's a 4 against 13 polyrhythm?
    Polyrhythm (or cross-rhythm) is when you have two beats going at the same time, each of which are at least partially independent of one another. The best example I can think of is 3 against 2 (or vice versa): "one, two-and-three, one, two-and-three," emphasizing "one" and "and". With proper emphasis, you'll hear the one-two march as well as the one-two-three waltz. (I like this one because you can do it by yourself aloud.) The important thing to remember is that the "one" beat synchronizes both beats, so they always return to that "one" at the same time.

    4 against 13 would be a dominant 13-beat flow that places four sub beats equally throughout (precisely, each sub beat would be played for every 13/4 dominant beats). Considering I have enough trouble playing 4 against 3, I would expect 4 against 13 impossible by one person alone.

    Scratch is well on its way to completion. There have been a few snags here and there (and I'm not even sure if this one part exists) but thankfully there are enough repeated verses.

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    Re: Homestuck Sheet Music

    Here's a 3 against 2, done crappily, a pretty crappy 3 against 4 and my best attempt at 13 against 4. I think the first measure of the 13 against 4 is 0k (just pretend the cleaner sounding one playing the 13 played it evenly throughout) but I screwed up the second measure pretty bad.

    I will also say sorry for not doing Keepers, but it's like all 7th chords and I suck at transcribing already. Still vaguely working on Walls Covered in Blood, but finals are coming up in a few days, so that's not going to happen for a little while.
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    Oh I get it now. I guess it would be difficult, but I don't think I've ever come up against it, considering I can really only play piano.
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    Re: Homestuck Sheet Music

    Adding just a bit more superfluity to this polyrhythm discussion, a great example of pseudo-polyrhythm via different overlapping phrase lengths can be found in the coda of Blood Sweat & Tears' "Spinning Wheel" (e: oh hey video length!). Phrase one is five measures while phrase two is only four! (I'll be honest, I just wanted an excuse to link to that song and musicnerd about it)

    Anyways, Spider's Claw goes slowly but steadily, alongside trying to make subtle tweaks to Broken Clock, Sunslammer, and also working on a few more from Alternia and maybe Drawing Dead. And also my finals, haha... As soon as Spider's Claw is done it'll be up, I promise!
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    Re: Homestuck Sheet Music

    I have a hard enough time simply doing four against three, I can't imagine I'd be able to play 4 against 13 up to the correct speed.

    Curse my lack of hand independence!

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    Re: Homestuck Sheet Music

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetMadness View Post
    I have a hard enough time simply doing four against three, I can't imagine I'd be able to play 4 against 13 up to the correct speed.

    Curse my lack of hand independence!
    Don't worry about it, I'm unable to do 1 against 1.

    It just feels so weeeeeiiirrrrd doing something different with each hand. (Translated: I suck at piano)

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    Once you get to a certain point, 4 against 3 just becomes automatic. I dunno how to describe it. Just takes a lot of practice.

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    Re: Homestuck Sheet Music

    Back in high school band, I learned a good mnemonic for playing 7 against 4: "Walk down the hall with a new tennis ball." (with "walk", "the", "a", and "nis" as the quarter notes)

    I'm not even sure we actually had to play 7 against 4 at any point. I only remember it 'cause I thought the mnemonic was cool.

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    4 against 3 is "PASS the GODdamn BUTter", by the wa
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    Re: Homestuck Sheet Music

    I'm to the point where I can play a simple note or chord with my left hand.

    I guess you'd call that 4 against 1 or something.


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    I think the trick is not to think of them as four against three or two against three or w/e and just know they way they sound, rhythmically. like you become familiar with the idea of a certain sequence and combination of notes within something split up into 12 parts and i'm doing a terrible job of explaining it.

    it just takes practice.
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    Re: Homestuck Sheet Music

    Quote Originally Posted by Kite View Post
    I think the trick is not to think of them as four against three or two against three or w/e and just know they way they sound, rhythmically. like you become familiar with the idea of a certain sequence and combination of notes within something split up into 12 parts and i'm doing a terrible job of explaining it.

    it just takes practice.
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    Erm, I always thought gaining limb independence with your foot was much harder than with your hands. At least, that was my experience in learning how to drum.
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    Actually I might've just said something really stupid! I dunno, that's how I did it. Then again I didn't learn any of the things I know through teachers I kind of learned most of it myself. In other words I am not a good example.

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    Re: Homestuck Sheet Music

    For me, when playing three against two and four against three, it mainly just comes down to playing it over and over and over and over again to where the timing becomes more muscle memory than actual conscious counting of the rhythm. From that point, it's just a matter of getting it up to the correct tempo. :/

    Thinking of how the two parts sound together, rather than trying to keep track of both of them separately is much easier (although that might be laziness on my part, I never claimed to be a particularly disciplined pianist).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetMadness View Post
    Thinking of how the two parts sound together, rather than trying to keep track of both of them separately
    this, this is what i was trying to say but put in less retarded terms

    yeah just keep trying basically! you'll get it.
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    Re: Homestuck Sheet Music

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    I figured out Chorale for Jaspers a while ago. I won't do Hardchorale, but I'll do the others eventually and post them here when I do.

    Er, for what instrument do you want them? I'm just gonna write them out for their original instruments unless you specify otherwise.

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    Re: Homestuck Sheet Music

    When I made that post, I finished it an hour afterwards in Finale, which it turns out had run through its demo time, meaning that I couldn't save or print the file. -_-

    After I come back from my Piano final today, I'll work on Chorale in Musescore.

    Alright, here is the .pdf of Chorale for Jaspers.

    http://www.mediafire.com/?888vttovt0e8ltr

    Here's the Muse Score file for any of you who feel like editing it if I screwed up. I'm fairly certain that all of the functions of the chords in the left hand are correct, but I may have put a vii where there should be a V7, so feel free to tell me if I did screw up.

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    I don't know if there are any trombonists out there, but is there anybody who would be willing to write/work out a trombone arrangement of Showtime? I would love you forever if you did. ^_^

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    Is there more to that then just transposing my midi down a couple octaves

    I'm sure there is but that's all I'm able to do so I did it anyway.

    http://www.mediafire.com/?62cqj3iy2l052ud

    Musescore decided to use a bunch of ties instead of dotted notes for some reason and I don't care enough to find out why.

    EDIT: By the way, don't add this to the list of the music. I can attempt to convert my entire midi if there is demand for it.
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    HO-LY CRAP

    I just took a look at the Homestuck medley, and I have got to say--I love whoever composed them for giving the viola the heartbeat of most of the pieces. Which is really what a viola is supposed to do. But it's still really awesome because it's like SIXTEENTH NOTES EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME ALL THE WAY ACROSS SKAIA YEAHHHHH. It looks incredibly hard to maintain but really worth it.
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    Re: Homestuck Sheet Music

    Y'alls should post some recordings of your attempts at playing this stuff. I'd love to hear these songs on other instruments.

    My only complaint with the Homestuck Medley is that the piano part for Sburban Jungle is assigned to... I forget what, but not the piano. I realize that having an extra line for the marimba just for that song is a little odd, but but but piano!

    Sometime tomorrow I'll post my attempts at Three in the Morning, Endless Climb, Ruins, and probably one or two other things I'm vaguely learning. Maybe what I've managed on Broken Clock.
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    Re: Homestuck Sheet Music

    Quote Originally Posted by Geekthras View Post
    Y'alls should post some recordings of your attempts at playing this stuff. I'd love to hear these songs on other instruments.
    Strongly agree.

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