Dear Andrew 2

[Tauhid]

I think it's awesome that you call your comics Scriblettes. I can't think of a a better name for something that manages to somehow display less artistic prowess than an actual scribble. They are like something that a scribble might poop out of its hastily scrawled buttocks. I might have called them shitletts but I can see that Scribblette is far more marketable. I guess that's why you are selling so fucking many of them. You should put together a book with Kris Straub and the guy from White Ninja and call it Crapthology.

Would that I could be in the room when that triple high five goes down.

[tynic]

Fun Fact: I actually have a short anthology of Straub's shitty 'ironic' comics. It came with some other stuff I got from his store. I know that this is the abuse forum and all, so I should compare Andrew's comics unfavourably with his or something, but I honestly don't think it's possible. They're terrible. They fail at being ironically terrible and just loop all the way around again into terrible.


PS oh god don't tell him I said that, it would crush his tiny soul.

[Andrew]

Cool, it's cool that you're a fan!

Also I will point out that there is a difference between someone who naturally sucks at art, and someone who is good at art but restrains his ability to create "high art". There are also many people who are good at art, but are so caught up in their pompous bullshit, they don't actually know how to be bad at art. Like, really bad, not just, "oh look, this is kind of messy, but you can still actually tell I'm good". I don't know for sure, but I suspect you are such an artist. I suspect you don't know how to suck.

As such, I challenge you to a suck-off any day of the week.

[Tauhid]

He does have an exceptionally tiny soul. The guy is smart as hell and has a great sense of humor (and like most funny cartoonists that sense never really makes it into the comics) but his level of insecurity makes even me feel like I'm made of steel and not just wrought iron.

I root for his irony comics though. I can totally relate to the desire to break into and excel at a given specific genre of comics. Didn't I used to draw picture of my avatar strangling people to death with my enormous penis? That seems like a lifetime ago.

[Tauhid]

Cool, it's cool that you're a fan!

Straub's comic is horrific, and White Ninja I used to like, but I don't think it's very good anymore. So no, my awesome comics will not be appearing with that crap. Thanks for the suggestion though!

Also I will point out that there is a difference between someone who naturally sucks at art, and someone who is good at art but restrains his ability to create "high art". There are also many people who are good at art, but are so caught up in their pompous bullshit, they don't actually know how to be bad at art. Like, really bad, not just, "oh look, this is kind of messy, but you can still actually tell I'm good". I don't know for sure, but I suspect you are such an artist. I suspect you don't know how to suck.

As such, I challenge you to a suck-off any day of the week.

I could out suck you with my mouth closed.

[Andrew]

Oh no you just didn't.

IT IS TIME FOR THE MAN ON MAN SUCK-OFF CHALLENGE

[Tauhid]

This was the hardest thing I've ever done in my life.

[Andrew]

Are you shitting me with this shit?

Look.

In the first panel, look how graceful the contour of the man's face is. A steady hand and keen eye was responsible for that kind of delicate touch.The eyes are well formed and were placed at a judiciously measured distance from each other. There is clear rationale dictating the break in the line between the top of the nose and the start of the hair. The penmanship is confident and bold. There is clearly formed agency behind a the stylization.

Nice try though!

[Andrew]

Now the game is officially...





AFOOT.

[tynic]

Maybe you guys should take this to the arena.

[Andrew]

Oh yeah I forgot, I was going to disable that again.

[Tauhid]

Clearly you've mistaken carefully engineered sucking for barely masked talent. In order to truly suck you can't just abandon all aspects of form, balance and perspective. You have to regress. You have to draw like you never knew them. You have to literally wipe your artistic slate so clean that you find yourself grasping your crayon in a tightly balled fist as you create. In fact create is the wrong word. What I've done here is destroy. I'm destroying art and the artist in myself. This comic was render by the id.

I had to forget my daughters face to produce this.

[Tauhid]

Maybe you guys should take this to the arena.

An excellent idea. Two men enter and two men leave. Only one of them is walking funny and being all quiet now.

[Andrew]

Oh great I guess I've got to respond to this shit now.

TauBo you don't even know what can of suckass you've opened.

[Andrew]

You want carefully engineered sucking you got it.

[Betelgeuse]

Yes, Gangbunch is BACK, BABY!!!

[Tauhid]

I think I may have accidentally made my best comic ever.

[Andrew]

I'm inclined to agree.

Or agtree.

[Andrew]

HERE'S WHAT I POSTED

Yeah, content has some say in the matter, but it shouldn't be overestimated. A well drawn comic can fail spectacularly in the concept department, while a horrifically drawn comic can be conceptually excellent, sometimes especially since it's been accented ironically with poor art.

This titanic suck-off is about the visual appeal of drawings as related to artistic skill, or the inhibition thereof. As you mentioned earlier, it's not merely about drawing the most brazenly incompetent jumble of lines possible. There actually can be a lot of inadvertent charm in that result, simply due to an uncompromising reduction of ego in the work. It's when someone is trying to be good, but doesn't have the gravitas to back it up when the drawing really suffers in the appeal department, and can cause one to blunder into the uncanny valley. This suck-off is about finding ways to creatively pull your style back to the echelons of an aspiring artist who is completely oblivious to the ways in which his art blows throbbing ape boner.

Observe with this simple cowboy drawing exercise.

[Betelgeuse]

I just came in here to say "oh snap!", but I'm not sure in whose favor. You guys figure it out.

[Tauhid]

This is not over. cto:

[Michael]

Yeah this is not over until I ruin it.

[Tauhid]

I must admit that I'm beginning to see the appeal of this shit. It's less like a foul smelling pile of refuse and more like a recently discarded bearclaw sitting on top of the waste paper basket with only a nibble taken out of it.

[Betelgeuse]

Nice 1!!!

[Tauhid]

Thank you, Purse. But I am merely the vessel.